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17 Aug 2010, 6:08 am

People use the word "bigot" to define the following:

Anyone who is white *and*:

1. Is a Christian

2. Votes Republican

3. Opposes same-sex marriage, abortion, medical marijuana, universal health-care, etc.

I support same-sex marriage and medical marijuana, but oppose abortion and universal health care. So I guess that makes me a bigot.


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17 Aug 2010, 6:26 am

I would say that because the west is more into free speech than Islamic nations the atheists in the west have no fear of speaking their minds. Christopher Hitchins does diss islam in his book. Dawkins concentrates on christianity because he was brought up a christian.



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17 Aug 2010, 2:46 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
People use the word "bigot" to define the following:

Anyone who is white *and*:

1. Is a Christian

2. Votes Republican

3. Opposes same-sex marriage, abortion, medical marijuana, universal health-care, etc.

I support same-sex marriage and medical marijuana, but oppose abortion and universal health care. So I guess that makes me a bigot.


No, it makes you sexist and libertarian. :)

being a bigot is not exclusive to whites, nor is it exclusively against blacks; your views sound like they're policy-based as opposed to prejudice-based, so while I strongly disagree (and frankly think that you're not in possession of the most important facts in either case), those positions can't be called bigoted.



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17 Aug 2010, 2:48 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
People use the word "bigot" to define the following:

Anyone who is white *and*:

1. Is a Christian

2. Votes Republican

3. Opposes same-sex marriage, abortion, medical marijuana, universal health-care, etc.



That is also bigotry. Some people are anti-bigot bigots.

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17 Aug 2010, 5:33 pm

LKL wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
People use the word "bigot" to define the following:

Anyone who is white *and*:

1. Is a Christian

2. Votes Republican

3. Opposes same-sex marriage, abortion, medical marijuana, universal health-care, etc.

I support same-sex marriage and medical marijuana, but oppose abortion and universal health care. So I guess that makes me a bigot.


No, it makes you sexist and libertarian. :)

Are you saying that opossing abortion is libertarian and opossing universal health care is sexist?


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17 Aug 2010, 6:14 pm

Think about it: Christians hate gay people, hate racial minorities (especially blacks), think women should be completely submissive, deny the Holocaust, and blame all economic downturns on the Jews. They want society worldwide to be like Mississippi or Alabama in the 1800s.


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17 Aug 2010, 6:35 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
Think about it: Christians hate gay people, hate racial minorities (especially blacks), think women should be completely submissive, deny the Holocaust, and blame all economic downturns on the Jews. They want society worldwide to be like Mississippi or Alabama in the 1800s.


Overgeneralized bigotry. Some of the most devout Christians are black folk and very few Christians I know deny what happened to the Jews in Europe. Some of them even saved Jews at great risk to their own lives. The family that kept the Franks hidden in Holland for two years was Christian.

You, sir, are a bigot.

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17 Aug 2010, 6:56 pm

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few Christians I know deny what happened to the Jews in Europe.

I know some christians that believe that the jews had it comming (the holocaust) for "killing Jesus".


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18 Aug 2010, 2:52 pm

I am not saying anything else in this thread.


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18 Aug 2010, 7:12 pm

greenblue wrote:
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few Christians I know deny what happened to the Jews in Europe.

I know some christians that believe that the jews had it comming (the holocaust) for "killing Jesus".


And they are completely, totally ignorant. The way I was always taught about the Crucifixion is that we ALL bear the guilt; the Jewish and Roman leaders simply happened to be the ones who actually carried out the act. None of us is absolved, and conversely, to blame Jewish people, or Italian people, any more than anybody else is without basis.


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18 Aug 2010, 7:14 pm

HAY GUYS JESUS WAS JEWISH


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18 Aug 2010, 7:16 pm

Duh.


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19 Aug 2010, 11:27 am

I always thought a bigot was a person who uses their religious convictions to justify or mask either their hatred/fear of things they do not understand.



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19 Aug 2010, 12:05 pm

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HAY GUYS JESUS WAS JEWISH


Why would gays care? They're not a particularly antisemitic group.


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19 Aug 2010, 12:10 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
Christians hate gay people


They don't hate them, they just want to encourage them to be celibate. Muslims too.