Abortion Of Disabled Fetuses Is Compassion!

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24 Aug 2010, 2:29 pm

or at least thats what a friend of mine said.

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24 Aug 2010, 2:33 pm

I only scanned that conversation, but it seems they are missing the point that autism is being diagnosed more because of more awareness-- not because the actual numbers of autistic individuals is increasing.

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24 Aug 2010, 2:35 pm

That's a load of crap. My husband was disabled, and the world was a better place for having him. He had a life that mattered to him, and to others, and I'm glad that I got to share that life with him. I'm glad his mother didn't choose to abort.

She avoided having other children, but the life she gave my husband, and the difference he made to so many far outweighed his disability. I find thinking like this to be bigoted against the disabled... it's eugenics by another name.

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24 Aug 2010, 3:21 pm

How disabled?

An infant born without a prefrontal cortex is doomed never to be human and won't live long anyway. Such infant (ancephelics) are born occasionally.

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24 Aug 2010, 3:28 pm

ruveyn wrote:

An infant born without a prefrontal cortex is doomed never to be human and won't live long anyway.

So then, there is no need to abort.

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24 Aug 2010, 3:32 pm

leejosepho wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

An infant born without a prefrontal cortex is doomed never to be human and won't live long anyway.

So then, there is no need to abort.

To protect the wellness of the woman.

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24 Aug 2010, 3:35 pm

leejosepho wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

An infant born without a prefrontal cortex is doomed never to be human and won't live long anyway.

So then, there is no need to abort.

Not so. A women who finds her fetus to be ancephelic may not wish to risk the hazards of bearing a child that will not be fully human and who will die soon anyway. Aborting early is less risky than childbirth.

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24 Aug 2010, 3:48 pm

In my opinion, it depends upon the severity of the disability.

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24 Aug 2010, 3:49 pm

In my opinion, it's no one's business to know why someone wants an abortion.

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24 Aug 2010, 4:10 pm

It can be compassionate, but I agree with skafather84 that it doesn't matter why a woman would choose to have an abortion. There's nothing wrong with abortion, compassionate or not.

In fact, I go even further than abortion: I'm with Peter Singer; I think infanticide is justifiable in cases of severe disability.

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24 Aug 2010, 5:13 pm

I am not sure that this type of argument is particularly helpful to the debate.

Supposing, for a moment, that there is a gravity of disability that we could all agree was sufficient to justify abortion, does that then serve to justify abortion generally? Of course not.

Rather, I think it suggests that we can draw subjective lines about when abortion is and is not justified. I see this as a very dangerous approach because it allows people to take an extremely restrictive view (abortion only in cases of acephalia!)

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24 Aug 2010, 5:18 pm

In my view, all disabled feteuses should be aborted. No? Let the disabled baby be born, then let that person have the choice to end his or her life. Whatever the outcome, don't think the eradication of disabilities has any level or similarities with what the Nazi's did with the Jews. Just don't, that was an entirely different thing altogether.

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24 Aug 2010, 5:57 pm

Craig28 wrote:

It does however have a level of equivalency to what the Nazis did to the mentally handicapped.

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24 Aug 2010, 6:13 pm

visagrunt wrote:

Sand lines topic

Quoted for Reasonableness.

As Ska and you_are(etc) wrote, the decision is private and individual, though I cannot agree with infanticide (the killing of infants) with regard to disability.

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24 Aug 2010, 7:03 pm

Even so, who decides what's disabled and what's not?

Eugenics are a huge risk in here. Not worth it.

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24 Aug 2010, 7:17 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:

Even so, who decides what's disabled and what's not?

Eugenics are a huge risk in here. Not worth it.

A child born without a pre frontal cortex is disable. It will never be human.

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