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Which of the follow most closely describes your theory of history
Events are being Controlled by powers from behind the scenes. 8%  8%  [ 1 ]
History is Just one damn thing after another. 75%  75%  [ 9 ]
The motives behind most social change is economic. 17%  17%  [ 2 ]
History is the fulfillment of Prophecy 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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JakobVirgil
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19 Feb 2011, 8:14 pm

What is behind the events going on in the world?



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19 Feb 2011, 8:32 pm

I belive in two of your options, but to back the one I chose, here is a quote from a British minister, Dennis Healey.

“World events do not occur by accident. They are made to happen, whether it is to do with national issues or commerce; most of them are staged and managed by those who hold the purse string.”



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19 Feb 2011, 8:35 pm

Nambo wrote:
I belive in two of your options, but to back the one I chose, here is a quote from a British minister, Dennis Healey.

“World events do not occur by accident. They are made to happen, whether it is to do with national issues or commerce; most of them are staged and managed by those who hold the purse string.”


And the less evidence there is for a behind the scenes conspiracy, the more you believe there is a behind the scenes conspiracy. When it comes to conspiracies, no evidence is a lot of evidence. And so it goes...

I have a simpler view: sh*t happens.

ruveyn



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19 Feb 2011, 8:36 pm

ruveyn wrote:
I have a simpler view: sh*t happens.


Amen! :hail:



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19 Feb 2011, 8:48 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Nambo wrote:
I belive in two of your options, but to back the one I chose, here is a quote from a British minister, Dennis Healey.

“World events do not occur by accident. They are made to happen, whether it is to do with national issues or commerce; most of them are staged and managed by those who hold the purse string.”


And the less evidence there is for a behind the scenes conspiracy, the more you believe there is a behind the scenes conspiracy. When it comes to conspiracies, no evidence is a lot of evidence. And so it goes...

I have a simpler view: sh*t happens.

ruveyn



Hey. dont blame me, Iam just telling what somebody whom was actually there, in the top echelons of British Government said, and I guess he should know!

LINK TO DENNIS HEALEY



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19 Feb 2011, 8:57 pm

Repetition of the same cyclical mistakes, just in different forms as technology permits.


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19 Feb 2011, 9:00 pm

Things happen because of an often obscure build up of interconnected events that will then later be picked apart and assigned greater or less value depending upon the preference in academia at the time


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19 Feb 2011, 9:09 pm

Jakob, why do you have your avatar as Salman Rushdie looking cyanotic?


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19 Feb 2011, 9:14 pm

history is a kernel of truth wrapped in an interpretation of BS.


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19 Feb 2011, 9:39 pm

An interesting probe.

Generally do not do polls per se.

I am reminded of one multiple choice quiz - teacher said it would not count on grade, so I marked on a patter, a a b c b a a b c b or such. Mine was the best quiz turned in. Why I did not DO multiple choice as teacher.

My response would likely be closest to that from Natty Boh - but of course human actions, reactions, interactions are very complex balances of an unguessable inventory of factors.

Go to Las Vegas, put your shirt on the nose of a horse [Yucch!], but do not predict people save in the utmost generality - like ruveyn.

That said, it is also noteworthy that some answer for the path of history and some - see ryan93 - for historiography.

The latter would never have occurred to me.



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19 Feb 2011, 9:59 pm

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I am reminded of one multiple choice quiz - teacher said it would not count on grade, so I marked on a patter, a a b c b a a b c b or such. Mine was the best quiz turned in. Why I did not DO multiple choice as teacher.


Multiple choice questions are a terrible judge of level of knowledge; I got an A1 on my Christmas biology, my friend, who never attended once, got a B1.

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That said, it is also noteworthy that some answer for the path of history and some - see ryan93 - for historiography.

The latter would never have occurred to me.


The historiography element I feel is the most important element, really the only element worth arguing about. If the methodology of study is flawed, then the field is flawed. And while I won't deny that empirical observation means that the facts will generally be accurate, the theories connecting these facts often involve a large degree of subjectivism, and I have no time for opinion.


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19 Feb 2011, 10:01 pm

THEY are behind it all.

The paranoids.

A global cabal of paranoids are out to rule the world.

And theyre all out to get ME!