Paul Ryan's outrageous use of the word "envy"

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13 Apr 2011, 7:08 pm

That scum, that lowest form of life Paul Ryan has done it again. He denounced the criticisms of his Plan by Barack Obama as being a plan to stoke "envy"... envy of the rich, presumably, the rich whose tax burden would be substantially reduced under his Plan as the social contract is rewritten to rob the vast majority of the population blind. Gone will be Medicare, gone will be retirement, tax burdens will increase for most people. This is not about envy, this is about being robbed. Now Ryan says that those who object to the robbery by those who have everything "envy" those people? Why he doesn't have a whole legion protecting him 24 hours a day is something I don't understand, American people are so mild-mannered!



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13 Apr 2011, 7:13 pm

I agree with what you're saying except for the encouraging violence against him part (unless I misunderstand, in which case I apologize)
Also- Americans, mild mannered?!


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13 Apr 2011, 8:16 pm

What Ryan proposes is very damaging for people and usually when something threatens a huge number of people there will be some of those who will consider violence. And therefore Ryan would require massive security. Only that my impression is that people don't see this for what it is or are resigned to it or otherwise aren't angered and therefore there aren't such threats... Instead people are more likely to threaten people over irrelevant things like birth certificates or what have you, not in answer to real threats to themselves as Ryan is carrying out.



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13 Apr 2011, 8:43 pm

xenon, I read once that a fair proportion of Americans voted for George W. Bush in 2004 because they 'wanted to be patriotic, because he's the president'
8O The masses are painfully ignorant...
I don't know who to blame anymore


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13 Apr 2011, 8:51 pm

Vigilans wrote:
xenon, I read once that a fair proportion of Americans voted for George W. Bush in 2004 because they 'wanted to be patriotic, because he's the president'
8O The masses are painfully ignorant...
I don't know who to blame anymore


:lol: no f***ing way, you're kidding me?? "because he's the president"??? :lmao:



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13 Apr 2011, 9:18 pm

Vigilans wrote:
xenon, I read once that a fair proportion of Americans voted for George W. Bush in 2004 because they 'wanted to be patriotic, because he's the president'
8O The masses are painfully ignorant...
I don't know who to blame anymore
I'm not surprised. In fact I am more anti-tyranny of the masses than anything else when it comes to politics. Power comes from other people through their trust and demand that you will serve their interests. Power in this case is defined as power within the hierarchy of society. With this in mind, the masses set the precedent for dictators. The strength of power lies in the masses, while the direction of power is determined by tyrants. And of course the established hierarchy of society is the leverage of power.

Anyways I'm gonna have to do some research on this dude and see what he's about.



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13 Apr 2011, 9:58 pm

Ryan is notorious for forcing his employees to read Ayn Rand. You know, the inspiration for the Church of Satan.



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13 Apr 2011, 10:04 pm

xenon13 wrote:
Ryan is notorious for forcing his employees to read Ayn Rand. You know, the inspiration for the Church of Satan.


my friend was assigned(=forced to read) Das Kapital for one of his Political Science course

at least Ayn Rand is not full of crap



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13 Apr 2011, 10:08 pm

Marx was a very important economist. His insights are very important.



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13 Apr 2011, 10:10 pm

xenon13 wrote:
Marx was a very important economist. His insights are very important.


Marx was a failed economists .His insights killed more than 100 milion



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13 Apr 2011, 10:10 pm

xenon13 wrote:
Ryan is notorious for forcing his employees to read Ayn Rand. You know, the inspiration for the Church of Satan.


do you have a citation for Rand being the inspiration LeVey's Satan church of satan?
I would like to use it :D


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13 Apr 2011, 10:15 pm

LaVey was quoted as saying that his church was “just Ayn Rand’s philosophy with ceremony and ritual added”.

Ellis, Bill - (cited in Raising the Devil: Satanism, New Religions, and the Media. Lexington, KY: The University Press of Kentucky, 2000, p. 180).



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13 Apr 2011, 10:19 pm

xenon13, are you Michael Moore, cause you sure sound like him.



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13 Apr 2011, 10:27 pm

cave_canem wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
xenon, I read once that a fair proportion of Americans voted for George W. Bush in 2004 because they 'wanted to be patriotic, because he's the president'
8O The masses are painfully ignorant...
I don't know who to blame anymore


:lol: no f***ing way, you're kidding me?? "because he's the president"??? :lmao:


I know :lol: I don't know if I should laugh, or cry, or both

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my friend was assigned(=forced to read) Das Kapital for one of his Political Science course

at least Ayn Rand is not full of crap


Are you suggesting that PoliSci should not involve understanding every part of the political spectrum? Because if you are, you're just providing us with more ammunition against you, you silly little hamster
Also, Ayn Rand is pretty well empty, from crapping on everybody else. But I hear shes a good writer of fiction

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xenon13, are you Michael Moore, cause you sure sound like him.

I don't picture xenon as a burger-chomping fart-master


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13 Apr 2011, 10:55 pm

xenon13 wrote:
LaVey was quoted as saying that his church was “just Ayn Rand’s philosophy with ceremony and ritual added”.

Ellis, Bill - (cited in Raising the Devil: Satanism, New Religions, and the Media. Lexington, KY: The University Press of Kentucky, 2000, p. 180).


I thought it looked familar.
I thought Satanism is inverted xainity and Rand is inverted Communism <- a xian heresy.
but it looks like a direct copy wow Ayn is the mother of the Beast.


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14 Apr 2011, 12:35 am

xenon13 wrote:
What Ryan proposes is very damaging for people and usually when something threatens a huge number of people there will be some of those who will consider violence. And therefore Ryan would require massive security. Only that my impression is that people don't see this for what it is or are resigned to it or otherwise aren't angered and therefore there aren't such threats... Instead people are more likely to threaten people over irrelevant things like birth certificates or what have you, not in answer to real threats to themselves as Ryan is carrying out.

You overlooked that most of the people with guns and are proficient with them agree with Paul Ryan that drastic measures need to be made to drive down the debt. Liberal activists tend to be a minor threat. :P


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