I haven't studied it in detail, but my understanding is that the "deal", perhaps unstated, was that the industrialists would employ more people even when they didn't need them...
Padding the Payroll.
Fixed wages.
Government-subsidised make-work projects.
Ahh ... but who pays for it all?
Welcome to America!
"Omigawd! We're almost out of money! Let's blame some insular ethnic group; portray them as greedy, manipulative and immoral; and then declare them to be criminals so that we can arrest them and confiscate all their wealth for ourselves!"
It all makes sense now.
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they violate international laws (Iraq, Pakistan), violate human rights (Guantanamo bay), support the world's most horrific state (Israel) that treats palestinian civilians as subhumans, invade any nation if they feel the urge.
One nation, one people, one Fuhrer,
Heil Obama!
Godwin's law.
But, yeah, Guantanamo, it isn't the first time that the US gets away with violating human rights, and supposely Obama dissmantled it? anyway, nice going, torturing people again.
I've heard of him, but the only things I know about him are that he holds linguistic theories that are totally at odds with the facts, and that his writing style makes things appear more complex than they are, which seems to impress some people. And now I'm inferring from your post that he's jewish.
Not that it would matter anyway. I'm talking about what I hear from jews I know personally, not what I read, and I certainly don't know Chomsky personally.
Chomsky - totally on on his linguistics, and I will avoid my boiler plate rant on how he leveraged himself to Big Brother status in Linguistics.
For the rest: Chomsky is of Jewish extraction.
Given what has been said recently in these pages about the status of Messianic Jews, a careful; taxonomist would say that he is as Jewish as I am a Transformationalist. Three guesses as to what that figure is.
I will be brief - an effort - but since you ask ... And I shall poszt here rather than pm because there are features which are instructive and not that far off topic.
Briefly, then:
Chomsky signed on as a student with Zellig Harris, the least comprehensible of all clearheaded and reasonable linguists. I have no idea why.
In assembling his dissertation on Hebrew grammar - Jewish extraction - he took the concept of TRANSFORMATION Harris had come up with, stripped off the name, attached it to a concept totally different except for relating distinct constructions. I have no idea what Harris thought and said at the defence.
Degree in hand, Chomsky took on a job teaching Linguistics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. WHAT? you say? That is what I said. Did Texas A and M have a linguistics department in the late 50s? Why would it? I have ni idea WHY MIT decided to do such a thing.
But I CAN guess how Chomsky got the job, given it existed. He is of the same basic personality class as Masrtin Luther, Joseph Smith, Muhammad, Stalin, Mussolini [Hitler is different]. He combines forceful energy with charismatic delivery - and though I despise him and his works, I have never denied that he has intelligence. If there is a job, and he wants it, most faculty committees I have seen will be persuaded.
So he is teaching at MIT, publishing, hooking up with a cluster of exEuropean innovators and patching pieces of their ideas into his theoretical models. He is addressing engineers, mathematicians, people from the English department. His model plays like math or Fortran, he is not burdening anyone with languages engineers and English majors don't know. He is forceful and charismatic and nobody is offering MIT alternative versions of Linguistics.
He convinced and trained a cadre of exEnglish and exEngineering Transformationalists and sent them out as missionaries - or infiltrators. Each Chomskyite who got a job teaching Linguistics at UCLA or Indiana or wherever began talking loudly and bringing engineers and English majors into the Linguistics classes, publishing aggressively and spreading the word.
If a Transformationalist spoke at a conference, at question time the others would stand up with words of praise and congratulation. When a nonTG linguist spoke, thde Transformers would rise one at a time and pick and heckle a la PPR.
And IF there were a job opening in a department that held as cuckoo - sorry, Chomskyite - he would work to ensure it was filled by another Chomskyite.
Very soon miost Linguistic departments and the major peer reviewed journals were solidly TG - no one else could get a job, no one else could be published. The few holdovers and holdouts - I belong to the latter category - were more and more marginal.
Consensus in the field - achieved by peer pressure and conquest, not by persuasion.
Eventually, though, nature asserted itself. Converts to TG who actually looked at languages saw it did not work. TRhey stasrted to try to fix it. Some really interesting work was done - great new ideas.
But would Muhammad or Stalin or Luther tolerate that? Out came Son of Chomsky - a NEW theory, Windows 2000, which pushed by Chomsky's charisma and party loyalty took over and put him back on the throne.
That is Chomsky in a nutshell. He bulldozed my home and turbed my favorite poark into a parking lot.
I've heard of him, but the only things I know about him are that he holds linguistic theories that are totally at odds with the facts, and that his writing style makes things appear more complex than they are, which seems to impress some people. And now I'm inferring from your post that he's jewish.
Although I disagree with him on the matter, please read some of his material on this subject, so you can at least appear to be partially educated when you are proposing what I think is a not only wrong but incompletely and, moreover, inexpertly considered view on this matter.
http://www.amazon.com/Gaza-Crisis-Refle ... 238&sr=1-1
The truth of the matter is that there can be no simple solution for the situation between Israel and the Palestinian territories.
Every single contested inch of land between Israel and the Palestinian is a separate and unique dispute with different actors involved. Each millimeter of turf there has its own unique and often extremely ancient history.
I know it's a lot of work, but go on Google Maps, and look carefully over the individual sub-divisions of Gaza Strip. What you should do is actually look at each sub-division, and research the detailed history and background behind it. All of them have a different story behind them.
Also, look carefully at every single district in East Jerusalem, and explore in detail the history behind them.
Look at the individual West Bank territories, and explore their history in detail.
Is that too much work for you? If so, stay out of it. It's none of your business if you can't be bothered to even become familiar with what is actually going on underneath the rhetoric.
And, if you can't do half the work that I did on trying to grasp and understand this subject, just face up to the fact that you don't know what you're bloody talking about.
The only way that the problems between the Israelis and the Palestinians will ever be resolved will be to take it one thing at a time. That sort of process would take decades if most parties involved were willing to behave like adults.
Please note that I am breathing steadily and not holding my breath.
They do the same thing with gentiles, though. If you talk to two different Jews about Israel's policy on Palestinians, both of them will take the position on the topic that is most directly in opposition to yours. They will do this on just about any subject whatsoever.
It's a Jew thing. I think they treat it like mental pilates or something.
http://dover.idf.il/IDF/English/News/to ... 1/2502.htm
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/17 ... c-mccarthy
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 29,00.html
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-d ... e-1.302680
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/mar/20 ... s-20110320
And by the way, jerks, before any of you start throwing around the accusation, nobody is calling you "antisemites." We're just laughing at you because you are f*****g morons. It makes me embarrassed to be a called a Westerner that so many of you have been so completely taken in by the anti-Israel propaganda out there.
http://www.amazon.com/Gaza-Crisis-Refle ... 238&sr=1-1
The truth of the matter is that there can be no simple solution for the situation between Israel and the Palestinian territories.
And yet, it seem the whole problem is so simple you can give me a boilerplate response when in fact I have not proposed any view whatsoever on what should be done in the matter.
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Nope, no concentration camp.
So no then, we're not Nazis.
Yes, and Auschwitz was in Poland.
And Guantanamo in Cuba, wasnt it?
'A room with a view, and you....'
Guantanamo's moral equivalent is not Auschwitz... A prisoner of war encampment that defies international law are not one of the same wherever they may exist. Unfortunate, sure. But circumstance and the acts carried out there make for gradations as in some are more evil, some are the ultimate epitome of evil, and some aren't so bad.
In the history of war-time POW detention-camps, if POW's throughout human history had to choose one POW camp to relive their imprisonment experience through(over the one they had to go through), ours would certainly rank up there in the preferred list.
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Nope, no concentration camp.
So no then, we're not Nazis.
Yes, and Auschwitz was in Poland.
And Guantanamo in Cuba, wasnt it?
'A room with a view, and you....'
I'll love to hear how you associate E. M. Forster's novel with POW/concentration camps?
I guess you've never heard of Norman G. Finkelstein then? I'm not wholly convinced by his arguments, but nor am I sure he's wrong, at least in substance. Except for his mother and father, his whole family was exterminated by the Nazis. And what he has to say about Israel and Jewish advocacy groups in the USA, well, it ain't complimentary.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BaJCRXsgt4&feature=related[/youtube]
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