Anti-Semitic (this one is for the ignorant Mcjeff :) )

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13 Aug 2006, 8:14 am

I tried to explain many and many times to the famous zionist supporter user Mcjeff that Lebanese and arab races are also semetic but all my tries were uselsss since he still continue to describe lebaneses who are descendants of Phoenicians , an ancient semetic race , as an anti-semetic race ! !!:D.

The funny is .....that all historical facts prove that lebaneses and palestinians are semetic and zionist media always try to brainwash the world that arabs are anit-semetic ....it s like you are calling black africans as anti-blacks ... really this calling cracks me as hell and make laugh a lot. I can link you to tons of historical articles prove my point.

Anti-Semetic is a term created by the jews to describe the hatred to the "Aryan race" (the Germans ,iranians and turks) toward the jews ....who are a semetic race.
This term can be truly applied on the nazists since they killed jews based on racist beliefs , so why most dictionaries describe anti-semetic as anti jews ...but also most dictionaries note that arabs and otehr mideastern races are semetic too .

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Racial anti-Semitism. With its origins in the early and popularly misunderstood evolutionary ideas of race that started during the Enlightenment, racial anti-Semitism became the dominant form of anti-Semitism from the late 19th century through today. Racial anti-Semitism replaced the hatred of Judaism as a religion with the idea that the Jews themselves were a racially distinct group, regardless of their religious practice, and that they were inferior or worthy of animosity. With the rise of racial anti-Semitism, conspiracy theories about Jewish plots in which Jews were somehow acting in concert to dominate the world became a popular form of anti-Semitic expression. It should be noted, however, that Arabs are a semitic people too.


Now what i am not understanding is the use of this term to describe arabs and lebaneses ....the lebaneses and arabs always suffered a lot from the "anti-semetic" racism during the Turkish Ottoman occupations ...the ancient turks always viewed us as "semetic race" = inferior race than their Aryan race and they treated our people based on this Aryan racist belief .

Now the brainwashed zionist brain ( and McJess is a live example of such brain) is not able to comprehend or it s in denial that peoples who see them as his enemies (the Lebaneses and the Palestinians ) are also semetic UNLESS if he denies our semetic origin like some zionists do , then this is another story ....and I feare that there s no rational force can change a such brainwashed brain , but i created this thread to show the unbrainwashed brains abt the truth of the lies created by zionist isreali media abt the lebaneses .



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13 Aug 2006, 12:57 pm

You are very correct.


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13 Aug 2006, 10:36 pm

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/anti-semitic

Define irony: Someone using "ignorant" as an insult while throwing the term Zionist around like it means something and accusing others of being brainwashed.



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14 Aug 2006, 4:46 am

^^ haha u r impossible and u just proved my point ...stop refering to these dictionaries , this definition doesnt mean that lebanese anti-semetic as because lebanese are semetic too .I agree with you McJess that nazist were anti-semetic ....and they were anti-jews because jews were semitic race and that s why this term is called anti-semetic not anti-jews.....but the western world because of ur media think that semitic is just equal to jews .

definition of Semetic:

# 1) A language group in the Afro-Asiatic language family that includes Hebrew and Arabic. 2) description of Middle East peoples that trace their origin from the biblical Noah and his son Shem; these include Jews and Arabs.
www.afsc.org/israel-palestine/learn/glossary.htm

# A group of languages belonging to the Afro-Asiatic family and spoken in North Africa and southwestern Asia. It includes Hebrew, Arabic, Aramaic, Maltese and Amharic.
www.thepeacefulplanet.com/glossary.html

# of or relating to the group of Semitic languages; "Semitic tongues have a complicated morphology"
# a major branch of the Afro-Asiatic language family
# Semite: of or relating to or characteristic of Semites; "Semite peoples"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

# Semitic is an adjective referring to the peoples who have traditionally spoken Semitic languages or to things pertaining to them. Genetic analysis suggests that the Semitic peoples share a significant common ancestry, despite important differences and contributions from other groups. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic



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14 Aug 2006, 4:58 am

McJeff wrote:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/anti-semitic

Define irony: Someone using "ignorant" as an insult while throwing the term Zionist around like it means something and accusing others of being brainwashed.


hahaha so you don't deny that u r a zionist ....look let me tell you something I don't hate jews and i have nothing against jews in fact i don't discriminate by religion.....but i hate zionism and zionsite because your ideology sucks based on violence and the people that follow it suck too :) so you suck....and yea yea let me make it clear I hate YOU personally because you are zionist ..I CANNOT respect a "human" or i have to say a "monster in shape of human?" with such ideology.

You are like the nazists and Quaeda and hezbollah ...people who think themselves superiors and want to dominate the world ...TFEH!! ! I am dissgusted from the likes of you :x

call me a anti-zionist ... i ll be proud :)



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14 Aug 2006, 10:29 am

Alright, Petit Princess (look I can do the name thing too ololol!! ! :lol:).

Take the word "homophobe". It literally means, "person with an intense, clinical fear of homosexuals". But does anyone actually think it means this? No - they use it to mean "bigoted against homsexuals". It is an understood meaning.

Likewise, "anti-semitic" means racist against Jews, despite the fact that there are other semitic peoples.

Of course, you talk about all this like you're a person when, as proved by your last post, you're really just a reactionary, half-educated sand rat fit only to blow yourself up or be blown up... lets hope it's the latter.



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14 Aug 2006, 11:23 am

^^ our conversation ends here terrorist zionist ;) .

oh and btw they say :Petite Princesse



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14 Aug 2006, 4:30 pm

McJeff wrote:
Alright, Petit Princess (look I can do the name thing too ololol!! ! :lol:).

Take the word "homophobe". It literally means, "person with an intense, clinical fear of homosexuals". But does anyone actually think it means this? No - they use it to mean "bigoted against homsexuals". It is an understood meaningLikewise, "anti-semitic" means racist against Jews, despite the fact that there are other semitic peoples.

Of course, you talk about all this like you're a person when, as proved by your last post, you're really just a reactionary, half-educated sand rat fit only to blow yourself up or be blown up... lets hope it's the latter.


But don't most bigoted people still have an irrational fear to the groups they are against because they can't accept those different from themselves for one reason or another?? Take for example members of the Third Reich. If you read their autobiographies/books about National Socialism etc. they all did really believe that the Jews were a threat to the well-being and existence of their country.
Anyways, for those people that are bigoted, and have no "irrational fear", you're right most people would classify this as "homophobia" as well, but this still doesn't take away from the fact that it IS CORRECT to use it for someone with an irrational fear of a group of people and CAN still be used this way.

And just because just about everyone thinks "anti-semitism" means anti-Jewish (which it does) and ONLY anti-jewish does not mean that everyone is correct. On the contrary actually, most people I have met are even ignorant to the very origins of this word, meaning that this is popular opinion based on ignorance. This is also the popular term because the Jews are the ones that most of the influential/English-speaking world thinks have been the most persecuted in the last century and therefore the term comes up a lot (but as I said, most of these people are still ignorant aside from this popular usage it seems).

Anyways to me "anti" means 'against something' and semitism/semitic/semite etc. obviously means people other than just Jews.

I don't know if I'll waste any more time making this point here as I think I might have layed it out as well as I possibly can but anyone can feel free to respond.
Also IMO it would be nice if no one resorts to racist slurs (sand rat, hooknose, n****r whatever derogatory form it may be in) and try to keep this goddamned personal drama/insults to a minimum. :P



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15 Aug 2006, 12:03 pm

McJeff wrote:
Of course, you talk about all this like you're a person when, as proved by your last post, you're really just a reactionary, half-educated sand rat fit only to blow yourself up or be blown up... lets hope it's the latter.


I think you lost all credibility with this statement.



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15 Aug 2006, 12:14 pm

He spends the better part of 3 days throwing personal attacks (including racial slurs) at me, but the second I retaliate in kind, I "lose all credibility". *sigh*



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15 Aug 2006, 12:16 pm

McJeff wrote:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/anti-semitic

Define irony: Someone using "ignorant" as an insult while throwing the term Zionist around like it means something and accusing others of being brainwashed.


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Zionist

Define irony: someone hoist by their own petard.



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15 Aug 2006, 1:26 pm

"hoist by their own petard"

Which makes a lot of sense... I was lifted up into the air by my own firecracker.

Of course, Zionism has recently become nothing but a catchphrase for the radical left and militant islam to make their anti-Jewish bigotry more palatable to the center.

You're obviously not worth it, so even if you bother responding I won't respond to you.



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15 Aug 2006, 1:53 pm

McJeff wrote:
"hoist by their own petard"

Which makes a lot of sense... I was lifted up into the air by my own firecracker.


It's a common phrase, I'm not suprised it was lost on you.

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Of course, Zionism has recently become nothing but a catchphrase for the radical left and militant islam to make their anti-Jewish bigotry more palatable to the center.


I'm staunchly right wing (or would be considered so). There goes your straw-man argument...

Being anti-zionist is nothing to do with being anti-Jewish, the existance of Jewish anti-zionist groups and websites is evidence of that.

McJeff wrote:
You're obviously not worth it, so even if you bother responding I won't respond to you.


Pathetic.



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15 Aug 2006, 2:40 pm

McJeff wrote:
Being anti-zionist is nothing to do with being anti-Jewish, the existance of Jewish anti-zionist groups and websites is evidence of that.


Precisely. There are people from all different groups and walks of life that do not agree with this (could be followers of Baha'i, Jews, Christians, whatever.)
Just because anti-semites do not support Zionism does not automatically mean that all Anti-Zionists are anti-semites.



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15 Aug 2006, 3:59 pm

and it is also prudent to note that zionism is not exclusively a jewish movement either