Case for Obama birth certificate forgery growing....

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I never had an issue with Obama being dark skinned. He has a multitude of character flaws that alone made him unfit to hold the office. That's before you confront his utter lack of real world experience to show his ability to perform the role he sought or that every thing that came from his lips was a lie to trick the masses into voting for him.

I had similar issues with G. W. Bush (military deserter....only never prosecuted because his daddy [who was former CIA] pulled some strings to clean that mess up so he could go into politics.

I had similar issues with Clinton (draft dodger, gloried his drug use, was renowned to be corrupt and lacking in any moral character or real leadership ability as governor of Arkansas).

Pretty much since Regan, we've had presidents who got into office by being the "lesser of the two evils."

H. W. Bush....rode in on the coat tails of Regan...and Dukakis ran a lame campaign at best.

Clinton....rode in on "it's the economy, stupid," "character isn't important," and H. Ross Perot who got the masses riled up on "reinventing Washington" and then dropped out of the race...leaving Clinton and Bush clamoring for his supporters...most of which found Clinton more believable when he picked up Perot's campaign slogans.

G. W. Bush....rode in on the anger of Americans (both conservatives and many liberals) over the scandal-riddled Clinton administration. As lackluster as Gore's campaign was, many do attribute the taint of Clinton's eight years as why Gore didn't easily win the presidency. Absent that taint, his eight years as VP would have overshadowed any lack in his personality.

Obama....rode in on a wave of resentment over what Bush/Cheney did for eight years. Didn't help that the RNC ran McCain...who conservatives found repugnant because he was a Bush "yes man" up until he needed to run for office. Of all the real leaders in the conservative ranks, McCain was GIVEN the nomination. It's still an oddity that Obama got the DNC nomination over Hillary Clinton...who clearly was more suited for it, but that's a topic for another day.

Frankly, even Regan never really wanted to be president. He was pressured to put his hat into the ring by his peer because "America needed him."

Our leaders are indeed selected for us. Again and again I've seen this pattern, and my uncle told me this was so back when I was a teenager. I thought he was crazy, but years of being involved in politics and working campaigns has convinced me that indeed we don't really pick our leaders in the USA...we are given the illusion of choice. No matter who wins, the one left standing will serve the will of those who drive the political machine more than the people who cast their ballots.

George Washington was born a subject of the British Crown, and not a US citizen (because the USA didnt exist yet).


I think of the B-day of the USA as being July forth, 1776, when we declared Independence. But legal scholars consider 1790 (when the Constitution was ratified) to be the nations b-day.

Not sure which date to go with, but anyway:

It wasnt until our eighth president (Martin Van Buren) that we had a president born after the declaration of Independence. Born in 1784 he was not born a british subject. But he was born before the Constitution was nailed down. So lets put him in the gray zone- not born a Brit- but not exactly born an American either.

Then we went back to having a British born president. Number nine was born on these shores, but in 1773. So there is no way that William Henry Harrison could be considered 'born an American citizen'.

Number 10: John Tyler was born in 1790- after the D/I, and during the very year the constitution was being ratified (not sure whether that puts him in the gray or in the white).

Our eleventh president:Jame K. Polk (born in 1795) was the first US president to be born both after the D/I, and solidly after the R/C in 1790 making him the first President born in the solidly legally defined USA( the first one born solidly in the white zone of US citizenship).

But with number 12:Zachary Taylor (born in 1784) we reverted to a post D/I, but pre R/C president (gray zone again).

It wasnt until number 13: Milliard Fillmore (born 1800) that the modern unbroken chain of presidents born in the solidly legally defined (post R/C) USA began.

So we should posthumously, and retroactively, impeach atleast 9 (and really eleven) of the first 12 presidents because they were not born US citizens!

Okay, I'm going to break this down and try and explain why this kind of response annoys me so much.

It is a known fact that hate groups have jumped on the birther bandwagon. At tea party and birther rallies, invariably there are racist sign popping up. No, I can't prove that everyone associated with the birther movement are racists, but to say that there isn't a vocal element among them motivated by race is naive.