Increasing Bastardization of America

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A new male lion who takes over a pride will kill all of the existing kittens.

Male gorillas also commit infanticide. The females grieve for their murdered offspring and probably hate the new guy with a passion, but there is little they can do about his presence. Soon they are in heat again and find themselves filled with uncontrollable desire for the murderer of their children. It's hard to imagine anything more psychologically damaging and traumatizing. But mother nature doesn't care as long as this cruel spectacle results in stronger and healthier offspring. To think that some people believe this behavior and this selection process were designed by a loving, benevolent god...

Or wasps that lay eggs in living prey to reproduce

I also believe this saying (it takes a village...) to be true. But this means that two parents are not enough either. The healthiest environment for children is probably an entire family clan with parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles, and lots of siblings, nephews and nieces who all live under the same roof. But who would want to go back to that?

Or mind-controlling parasites like Toxoplasma gondii, which program mice to seek out cats in an attempt to get eaten. Not a particularly cruel example, but very interesting because this protozoan tries to perform the same brain surgery on dead end hosts, including humans. The result is quite frightening and makes a great argument against free will:


Source: http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Par ... 90758.html

This is no hoax btw. There are other parasites who perform neurosurgery on their hosts and/or mess with their neurochemistry, such as the Lancet liver fluke, who thoroughly alters the behavior of snails and ants. Who knows how many other human personality changes are caused by parasites? Even our gut flora affects our brain development and behaviour (link). Change your diet and you become a slightly different person. So much for free will.

I voted yay because I was in fact born before my parents married.

But most of all, I do not believe in the sacred concept of marriage. So... no problem with that. I think it's bad to be forced into marriage because you want to have kids. It's just... odd.

I don't think I ever want to marry. Kids... Maybe, even though it does not seem likely to me now.

Oh-oh.

That's a heck of a lot of people who can't go to church.

Going back ten generations: that's maybe 300 or more years, and 2^10 ancestors: it would be difficult to prove that one really had the entitlement to enter a church.

In Old Testament-speak doesn't "the Lord's people" mean the Israelites/Hebrews/Jews? Jesus said some vage thing about "fullfilling but not abolishing" those old laws, but it's not really clear the gentiles have to follow them as well.
This is just my very limited understanding, I'm an atheist so I don't feel an obligation to follow those rules anyway.

I know people don't want to hear this but...

This is the bottom line. It is not good for society. I think it is essential to encourage marriage among the lower/working classes.

And male chimpanzees have been known to "adopt" and raise abandoned infants.

Nature is great, isn't it?

That said, my mother's parade of idiot boyfriends never did me any favors except occasionally pretending to be my friend so they could keep screwing my mom. One of them attempted to kill my cat and referred to me as "ret*d."

IMHO, "step-dads" can $%&^# off.

She couldn't find a patsy?

Afraid not.

Men wanting to have sex with you is not the same thing as a decent man seeking a committed relationship.

My mother, who is admittedly a bit of a bimbo, learned that much too late.

Given the births out of wedlock and the statistics provided among different ethnic groups, and the actual number of births 1990 vs 2010 in the table below, the number of eventual issues in society include, a continuing trend in this direction, a society increasingly dependent on assistance for subsistence, and most troubling is the lack of clear social roles for those in the society.

At one point the village or tribe provided the social roles, then the family and work provided the social roles, then increasingly work provided the social roles, and now work is no longer either as available or can easily be defined as a social role through the course of one person's life.

A lack of social roles for socials animals invariably lead to extinction of the social unit. The social unit now is becoming a global one, with virtual reality connections that glue it together. Social animals of the warmblooded variety don't make good hive creatures.

Japan and South Korea are seeing the impact as some young people are losing the will to form any relationships and have any children.

While one might contribute the approaching overall 40% decrease in under the age of 20 births, in the US, in just two decades, to better education on reproductive control, that whole demographic except for Hispanics are on an increasingly downward spiral.

The only overall demographic, that is also the overall smallest demographic, that is keeping the family unit together is the Asian demographic in the US, however the number of births are still decreasing dramatically among the under age 20 demographic of that group, while all other age groups are increasing dramatically in births among the Asian demographic.

Society in the US is currently held together by the social welfare state, as it is exists. Chaos will be the result if and when that glue disappears in the future. The only current answer to avoid it is the continued re-distribution of wealth. Without the impact of weapons of mass destruction, a balance will likely continue to be found for some time to come if enough intelligence AND social cooperation continues. One can also likely forget any potential for anything but a Democratic President in the US as long as this demographic trend continues.

But a lack of social roles is still a real problem and can eventually look like what is demonstrated among social animals per the link and quote below in John Calhoun's behavioral sink experiment in the 60's, when social roles cease to exist and subsistence is still provided.

Some interesting analogies are already occurring in Japan and South Korea, per John Calhoun's experiment and the "beautiful ones".

36% of males age 16 to 19 in Japan have no interest in real sex. Many of who are reported as despising the thought of it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/3 ... 242014.htm

And make-up has become the foundation of success for men in South Korea.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/wor ... 57792806/1

But a rapidly decreasing population and suicide among the young and old are increasing at an alarming rate.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/17/world ... ral&src=me

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Calhoun#1963-1983

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/11/ ... igrants/7/

Are we really losing "social roles," or are we just creating new ones?

I'm not debating any of the information you posted, I'm just wondering if humans simply haven't had enough time to adapt to our rapidly changing social conditions.

The modern way of living is still pretty "new" considering the evolutionary time scale, so I prefer a "wait-and-see" approach.

Yes, I would say that new social roles are being created but they are becoming increasingly virtual reality ones instead of flesh and blood ones.

That is better than nothing, but when the social unit is lost, whether it is as a result of the loss of social roles in the village, extended family, work, or even organized religion and other social activities that people were connected to in real flesh and blood life in the past, what can be lost is the interdependence of that connection that people have relied upon when their time of need for help from others came, whether it is a ride to the mechanic shop to pick up one's car or someone to take care of the children when they are sick. Those are simple everyday examples but the social needs of support in so many other ways cannot be met in a virtual way. That's what I mean by humans don't make good hive animals.

I think the question is can society continue to adapt to fully meet the social needs of humans. It's trying.

Some people will adapt better to this new way of life, and some will not. It is far from a real crisis of chaos at this point. That point would be a tipping point of chaos where enough people do not adapt. I am not sure what that would look like, but it won't likely present very nicely.

I grew up in a single parent household (my father died when I was four). My grandparents stepped in and financed a nice middle class upbringing for me and my siblings. My brother just graduated from Stanford, so none of us turned out too bad

BUT

My mother had to give up her career for a lower pay job with only a week of vacation time every year. She was often a tired woman. She would often say she was too tired to monitor our grades or force us to do anything. We think that's the reason we are so successful for our age .

In all seriousness, I would not have been so blessed in life if I didn't have grandparents who could help or did help. I have a hard time imagining what would happen without this help. You lose a lot when raised by one parent. My mother just retired at 55, and was able to do so. I used to think her wish to retire young was laziness. Now I realize she is just worn out.

I fear for anyone born into a single family household, no matter the education level. You need two parents to keep you sane.