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24 Mar 2012, 6:40 pm

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Liberalism always appeals to emotion in order to evoke a compassion for the poor.


As conservatism appeals to hatred and resentment of the poor by use of emotion.

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How about good old plain indifference? One does not have to hate the poor. One can simply pay no attention to them.

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True you can not pay attention to the poor and not hate them but its silly to hate those who have nothing.



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24 Mar 2012, 6:42 pm

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True you can not pay attention to the poor and not hate them but its silly to hate those who have nothing.


How about neither hating them or paying any attention to them. It is the government taxing us to support the poor that is responsible for some people disliking the poor. Actually it makes more sense to hate the government.

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24 Mar 2012, 6:46 pm

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True you can not pay attention to the poor and not hate them but its silly to hate those who have nothing.


How about neither hating them or paying any attention to them. It is the government taxing us to support the poor that is responsible for some people disliking the poor. Actually it makes more sense to hate the government.

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Yes I have no love for the goverment at all but I love my country and the military as for the goverment hell no I dont care for them I have no love for them and dislike it as a whole.



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24 Mar 2012, 7:17 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
Liberalism always appeals to emotion in order to evoke a compassion for the poor.


As conservatism appeals to hatred and resentment of the poor by use of emotion.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


How about good old plain indifference? One does not have to hate the poor. One can simply pay no attention to them.

ruveyn


I'm talking about how Republicans want to make cuts to needed social programs, after playing up on resentment felt by people that the poor are getting a free ride.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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24 Mar 2012, 7:20 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
Liberalism always appeals to emotion in order to evoke a compassion for the poor.


As conservatism appeals to hatred and resentment of the poor by use of emotion.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


How about good old plain indifference? One does not have to hate the poor. One can simply pay no attention to them.

ruveyn


I'm talking about how Republicans want to make cuts to needed social programs, after playing up on resentment felt by people that the poor are getting a free ride.

They do those things and its a fallacy on their part.
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24 Mar 2012, 7:57 pm

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Oh my bad but it seems though that people are talking about the thread so I dont see any harm done :lol:
Yeah, but for future reference and for the avoidance of doubt - state clearly the point or opinion behind your intended debate.
It's only polite and should avoid other posters guessing at the wrong reason.


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24 Mar 2012, 8:00 pm

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Oh my bad but it seems though that people are talking about the thread so I dont see any harm done :lol:
Yeah, but for future reference and for the avoidance of doubt - state clearly the point or opinion behind your intended debate.
It's only polite and should avoid other posters guessing at the wrong reason.


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24 Mar 2012, 8:05 pm

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24 Mar 2012, 8:13 pm

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Are you unwell?


Im the Joker are you batman?



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25 Mar 2012, 12:13 pm

I never understood the joker in Batman. He is so stingy that he won't even share the loot with the robbers.



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25 Mar 2012, 12:26 pm

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I never understood the joker in Batman. He is so stingy that he won't even share the loot with the robbers.


The Joker is a completly insane a master criminal and a highly intelligent psychopath with a warped, sadistic sense of humor.
He has been repeatedly analyzed by critics as the perfect adversary for Batman. Their long, dynamic relationship often parallels the concept of yin and yang. The Joker is a a violent sociopath who murders people for his own amusement he is a sociopath mixed with psychopathy and egotistical nihilism.

And my favorite Supervillian of all time :wink:



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25 Mar 2012, 4:17 pm

Joker wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
I never understood the joker in Batman. He is so stingy that he won't even share the loot with the robbers.


The Joker is a completly insane a master criminal and a highly intelligent psychopath with a warped, sadistic sense of humor.
He has been repeatedly analyzed by critics as the perfect adversary for Batman. Their long, dynamic relationship often parallels the concept of yin and yang. The Joker is a a violent sociopath who murders people for his own amusement he is a sociopath mixed with psychopathy and egotistical nihilism.

And my favorite Supervillian of all time :wink:


I'm a Dr. Doom man myself.

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25 Mar 2012, 4:20 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
Liberalism always appeals to emotion in order to evoke a compassion for the poor.


As conservatism appeals to hatred and resentment of the poor by use of emotion.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


How about good old plain indifference? One does not have to hate the poor. One can simply pay no attention to them.

ruveyn


I'm talking about how Republicans want to make cuts to needed social programs, after playing up on resentment felt by people that the poor are getting a free ride.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


That is indifference and not hatred. I don't care if you starve, but that doesn't mean I hate you. It means I don't want to pay for you to eat. See the difference?



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25 Mar 2012, 4:23 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Joker wrote:
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I never understood the joker in Batman. He is so stingy that he won't even share the loot with the robbers.


The Joker is a completly insane a master criminal and a highly intelligent psychopath with a warped, sadistic sense of humor.
He has been repeatedly analyzed by critics as the perfect adversary for Batman. Their long, dynamic relationship often parallels the concept of yin and yang. The Joker is a a violent sociopath who murders people for his own amusement he is a sociopath mixed with psychopathy and egotistical nihilism.

And my favorite Supervillian of all time :wink:


I'm a Dr. Doom man myself.

Dr. Doom is cool but I am a DC fan not that into Marvel comics.

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25 Mar 2012, 4:46 pm

Joker wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Joker wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
I never understood the joker in Batman. He is so stingy that he won't even share the loot with the robbers.


The Joker is a completly insane a master criminal and a highly intelligent psychopath with a warped, sadistic sense of humor.
He has been repeatedly analyzed by critics as the perfect adversary for Batman. Their long, dynamic relationship often parallels the concept of yin and yang. The Joker is a a violent sociopath who murders people for his own amusement he is a sociopath mixed with psychopathy and egotistical nihilism.

And my favorite Supervillian of all time :wink:


I'm a Dr. Doom man myself.

Dr. Doom is cool but I am a DC fan not that into Marvel comics.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I was raised with Marvel! My wife is more of a DC chick, though.

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25 Mar 2012, 4:48 pm

noname_ever wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
Liberalism always appeals to emotion in order to evoke a compassion for the poor.


As conservatism appeals to hatred and resentment of the poor by use of emotion.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


How about good old plain indifference? One does not have to hate the poor. One can simply pay no attention to them.

ruveyn


I'm talking about how Republicans want to make cuts to needed social programs, after playing up on resentment felt by people that the poor are getting a free ride.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


That is indifference and not hatred. I don't care if you starve, but that doesn't mean I hate you. It means I don't want to pay for you to eat. See the difference?


I disagree - I've heard the hateful things Republicans have said about how the poor sponge off the rest of the country, and so should be left to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. What's even more disgusting is when Republicans try to use religion to justify their contempt for the poor.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer