Socialism for the 21st Century????

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29 Sep 2005, 1:31 pm

What do people think of my ideas?

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Would you like it if I became Prime Minister??

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01 Apr 2012, 3:47 pm

No :lol:

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01 Apr 2012, 3:51 pm

Seven years too late ...

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01 Apr 2012, 4:13 pm

Socialism doesn't work! The closest you can get is pretty much Germany or Holland.

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01 Apr 2012, 4:19 pm

TM wrote:

Socialism doesn't work! The closest you can get is pretty much Germany or Holland.

they and other socialist countries in the region all identify themselves as somewhat socialist, just because it isnt black and white doesnt mean its not socialism.
no single ideology will ever work so speaking in absolutes is pointless in this context anyway.

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01 Apr 2012, 4:23 pm

TM wrote:

Socialism doesn't work! The closest you can get is pretty much Germany or Holland.

Sweden and Norway would be better examples. But I would contend that we've yet to see a truly socialist system to know if it could work or not.

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01 Apr 2012, 4:27 pm

You don't really give any specific plans for how your society would work. Some more details are needed.

Oh, and as a heads up: Socialism for the 21st Century is a term usually associated with Hugo Chavez, the president of Venezuela. Although I like his economic ideas, the man unfortunately tends to play rather fast and loose with democracy, so that may not be an association you want.

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01 Apr 2012, 4:36 pm

AstroGeek wrote:

TM wrote:

Socialism doesn't work! The closest you can get is pretty much Germany or Holland.

Sweden and Norway would be better examples. But I would contend that we've yet to see a truly socialist system to know if it could work or not.

Norway isn't sustainable and neither is Sweden. Norway is holding up because of oil money and a low population. Sweden has very high unemployment and a lot of Swedes are leaving the country to work in other countries. Germany appears to be sustainable, but their largest threat is that much of the demand for their exports are from other European countries.

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01 Apr 2012, 5:02 pm

Vigilans wrote:

Seven years too late ...

good one

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01 Apr 2012, 5:13 pm

TM wrote:

Germany appears to be sustainable, but their largest threat is that much of the demand for their exports are from other European countries.

How is that a threat?

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01 Apr 2012, 5:25 pm

AstroGeek wrote:

TM wrote:

Germany appears to be sustainable, but their largest threat is that much of the demand for their exports are from other European countries.

How is that a threat?

The Euro. Which is a failed idea and will not last much longer.

To everyone crying about Socialism doesn't work, that's total bull. You all live in Socialist countries.

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01 Apr 2012, 6:16 pm

Yall wana no sometihing funny I pulled a voldemort by reopening this thread ahahahahah I might start doing that more often I get a kick out of causing :jester:

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01 Apr 2012, 6:26 pm

My understanding:

Capitalism has profits going to the company owners.

European socialism has a fixed portion of profits going to the owners and employees, with the rest being invested in quality control / process improvement.

Im not too big on capitalism for the same reason I don't like hedonism; over indulgence is a destructive habit that doesn't satisfy for long.

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01 Apr 2012, 6:27 pm

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It does when it comes to sex.

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