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26 Jul 2012, 10:18 pm

The European Union appears to have a platform where people can ask Herman van Rompuy questions. However, the moment you enter the site, you're greeted by this answer to a question. Somehow, it feels wrong. This is the president of the European Union, yet many - perhaps most - have never heard of him. That makes sense - he was not elected. The European Union is one of the few places where presidents are appointed, not elected, and it shows their obsession with the financial sector. Van Rompuy is, in function, the type of president Goldman Sachs has, not the type of president France has.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK7vyL3pseA[/youtube]

Before starting the video, you see a still. It's Van Rompuy, who might have some form of autism, looking into the camera with no other choice. Next to that, you see what apparently is a border guard. Now, the video is called 'we can be proud of what we have achieved', and it shows a border guard, so perhaps the question is about how the European Union helped people cross borders. But that's not at all what the question is about:

Magnus, from Stockholm wrote:
Mr. President,
What measures do you see necessary to elevate the feeling of unionism between the member states and among the unions' [sic] citizens?


This question is answered with Van Rompuy staring into the camera like he'd just want to punch Magnus in the face for asking that. Fortunately, we know that's not the case - these questions are carefully picked for their lack of political sensitivity. Nothing I'd submit would be answered. His answer:

Herman van Rompuy wrote:
Well, Magnus, maybe we should gently remind people how life would look like if there were no European Union. Look at these pictures, for example. [footage from the 1940s up to the 1990s, showing border controls] When you had to be checked at borders all over Europe. It's when we miss people that we realise how much we care about them. You know, we can be proud of what we have achieved and who we are. We are a Union of 27 countries and 500 million people, we live in political stability, democracy, peace, we have a social system, a highly-developed social system and high environmental standards, a good quality of life - so many people from other countries envy us for that, so we should recognise more clearly and, paraphrasing the new book published by French author [incomprehensible name] that Europe is 'un petit coin de paradis' - a small corner in paradise."


After this answer, I feel the urge to punch right through my screen.

Herman van Rompuy wrote:
Well, Magnus, maybe we should gently remind people how life would look like if there were no European Union.


What life looks like in Switzerland and Norway? I'm sure many people from Spain, Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Romania, Bulgaria, Greece and even his native Belgium would be very interested indeed to know that the European Union is absolutely unnecessary for peace and stability. His gentle reminders, meanwhile, are images from days long gone when the current incarnation of the European was founded. He could have used a painting of the battle of Waterloo. As for actual gentle reminders used so far, we were urged by the pro-EU camp to consider the Holocaust and the potential for a new war in Europe if we didn't vote in favour of a union-wide constitution.

Herman van Rompuy wrote:
You know, we can be proud of what we have achieved and who we are. We are a Union of 27 countries and 500 million people, we live in political stability, democracy, peace, we have a social system, a highly-developed social system and high environmental standards, a good quality of life - so many people from other countries envy us for that, so we should recognise more clearly and, paraphrasing the new book published by French author [incomprehensible name] that Europe is 'un petit coin de paradis' - a small corner in paradise."


Democracy? I'm listening, but I'm not hearing anything. 500 million people, and he's their unelected president, appointed out of the blue by his network of financial contacts, telling them that he values democracy and stability, just before heading off to a meeting where he tells democratically-elected governments to hand over more power to his network of unelected bureaucrats, and tells governments that a referendum is worth nothing compared to the iron will of the European Central Bank and its clients. This is romcom-emotional rubbish with a side dish of hypocritical lies.



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27 Jul 2012, 1:32 am

It's Rumpy Pumpy again.

And the Tories want us to stay shackled to this lot.



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27 Jul 2012, 7:14 am

I'll try to submit a question, just to see if Herman van Rompuy will answer a question that blatantly truthful.



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27 Jul 2012, 10:45 am

HisDivineMajesty wrote:
I'll try to submit a question, just to see if Herman van Rompuy will answer a question that blatantly truthful.


:lol:

I know aspies are socially inept but damn fool, when was the last time any politician answered a question honestly?

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27 Jul 2012, 10:54 am

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I know aspies are socially inept but damn fool, when was the last time any politician answered a question honestly?


That must have been centuries ago - but most politicians are able to lie effectively. Even though they're sometimes a bit too eager in their gestures and empty talking, they're much better at masking their incompetence and their lies than Herman van Rompuy. Actually, I wonder why Farage's comments were considered an insult rather than a proper assessment of the situation. The man looks like the least charismatic person you could imagine in that function. He's not a natural leader, and his English is rather limited - even when reading something from a screen, he can't apply basic grammar. At one point, he nearly lapses into Dutch.

They could replace him with a goat, and few would notice. :lol:



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27 Jul 2012, 11:44 am

His lack of charisma was a deliberate choice, can't have him overshadowing the likes of Blair, Sarkozy or Berlusconi.

What has he actually done in the last few years, does anyone know?



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27 Jul 2012, 11:54 am

HisDivineMajesty wrote:
I'll try to submit a question, just to see if Herman van Rompuy will answer a question that blatantly truthful.


You done that? I'm on linux, i tried with Firefox, Cromium, rekonq, old IE in a virtualized windows XP.

I really need the latest IE?



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27 Jul 2012, 12:58 pm

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What has he actually done in the last few years, does anyone know?


Chaired some bank meetings, spoke out against a few member states for disliking the results of those meetings, had some more meetings. Perhaps he even got to shake hands with Joe Biden. Before he became president of the European Union, he was prime minister of Belgium, which goes to show how power really is concentrated in Brussels. He didn't have to travel far for his new job, and can still drop by for coffee with his successor as prime minister of Belgium.

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You done that? I'm on linux, i tried with Firefox, Cromium, rekonq, old IE in a virtualized windows XP.

I really need the latest IE?


I've not yet submitted a question. I need something honest, not too aggressive, that stands a chance of being answered. Is the website saying you need a certain browser?



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27 Jul 2012, 1:03 pm

HisDivineMajesty wrote:
Quantum_Immortal wrote:
You done that? I'm on linux, i tried with Firefox, Cromium, rekonq, old IE in a virtualized windows XP.

I really need the latest IE?


I've not yet submitted a question. I need something honest, not too aggressive, that stands a chance of being answered. Is the website saying you need a certain browser?


It doesn't say anything. At the beginning all go well. But near the end, i can't chose the category in which to post it. I'm supposed to chose from a scrolling menu, but it doesn't work.



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27 Jul 2012, 1:12 pm

That's the European Union. Slow, bureaucratic, and trying to prevent bad information from reaching the public.
Even their websites reflect that. They give their expenses names like 'competition for growth and development' when they're basically bank subsidies.



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27 Jul 2012, 1:17 pm

You actually tried to post something?



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27 Jul 2012, 1:22 pm

I'm going to write a question now. I don't have a working camera anymore.
Let's see if it works.

EDIT: So far, I'm told I should pick a subject. However, the only subject available is 'All Topics', and they won't accept that.
Additionally, I can only use 220 characters to write down the actual question.

I wrote:
Dear Mr. President,

There is much more to the European Union than just Greece, Spain and Portugal. After the debt problems have settled down a bit, what are your plans for the European Union?

Regards,
Quentin



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27 Jul 2012, 1:37 pm

HisDivineMajesty wrote:
EDIT: So far, I'm told I should pick a subject. However, the only subject available is 'All Topics', and they won't accept that.
Additionally, I can only use 220 characters to write down the actual question.


With the latest IE?
What other browsers you used?

Any one went beyond that stage?

I propose, that when we figure how to post. We complain that there's a technical problem with the site. I didn't find where to complain for technical issues.



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27 Jul 2012, 2:00 pm

As for Mr. Flapjack, this is what Nigel Farage had to say about him:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dranqFntNgo[/youtube]

UKIP really did release damp rags (tea towels) for £5 each as a stocking filler. :D

Yeeeoooo!



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27 Jul 2012, 2:10 pm

Nigel Farage is absolutely right. There he is, being yelled at by an elderly man who is refusing to speak English and being called to order by another elderly man who barely speaks English for criticizing an elderly man who hasn't been voted for by even one of the five hundred million people he is supposed to represent. If anything, Nigel Farage represents the people of Europe, and Herman van Rompuy the consolidated elite and the banks.

The fascist comparisons against Farage are funny, especially as Herman van Rompuy is the president of 500 million people with not one vote; appointed through his political network.



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27 Jul 2012, 2:17 pm

HisDivineMajesty wrote:
If anything, Nigel Farage represents the people of Europe


He represents democracy. Van Rompuy, Barroso and others represent autocracy. History will not be flattering to these people.