United Against Neurelitism/sustainable development/Agenda 21

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nominalist
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07 Aug 2012, 11:28 pm

I modified my social-and-economic development website for Autists to include a reference to sustainable development:

United Against Neurelitism

Sustainable development is discussed here:

Agenda 21

and here:

The Earth Charter

and finally here:

Conservation and Sustainable Development in the Baháʾí Faith


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08 Aug 2012, 5:46 am

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Agenda 21. An agenda whereby the people of the advanced industrial nations, particularly the U.S., take an Oath of Poverty and agree to freeze in the dark.

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08 Aug 2012, 10:09 am

ruveyn wrote:
nominalist wrote:


Agenda 21. An agenda whereby the people of the advanced industrial nations, particularly the U.S., take an Oath of Poverty and agree to freeze in the dark.

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yay more completely irrelevant and hyerbolic drivel.


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08 Aug 2012, 12:43 pm

Oodain wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
nominalist wrote:


Agenda 21. An agenda whereby the people of the advanced industrial nations, particularly the U.S., take an Oath of Poverty and agree to freeze in the dark.

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yay more completely irrelevant and hyerbolic drivel.


Agenda 21 is pretty ominous stuff.

Even their pro-Agenda 21 videos makes it look bad. I posted some a while ago and it was scary as hell.



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08 Aug 2012, 2:23 pm

Most people who make negative comments about Agenda 21 have never read the document.

My suggestion is to read it, not to rely upon secondary sources or videos.


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08 Aug 2012, 5:15 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRFsoRQYpFM[/youtube]

Would you say this is an inaccurate portrayal of their long term vision? This is done by a major globalist group in a completely serious tone. I would assume any sane person would have a major problem with this video.



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08 Aug 2012, 6:23 pm

You realize that the video is a parody, right?


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08 Aug 2012, 6:33 pm

This page explains what they are doing:

http://www.forumforthefuture.org/project/megacities-move/overview

The idea of the cartoon you posted is to encourage people to take action before things turn out that way.


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08 Aug 2012, 8:35 pm

I am pessimistic on "sustainability" I think we may have already passed the tipping point.
Maybe we should just focus on making a soft landing in the inevitable economic collapse.


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08 Aug 2012, 8:58 pm

Perhaps, but that doesn't mean we should make things worse.


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08 Aug 2012, 9:06 pm

nominalist wrote:
Perhaps, but that doesn't mean we should make things worse.


Oh of course not but I think the focus should not be prolonging the current situation but preparing for a time when mass transport of people and goods is impossible. For example local agriculture, walk-able cities remembering folkcrafts blacksmithing soap making etc. Building community norms based on inter-reliance etc. I think we may be better off if we ran out of fuel earlier rather than later. The other species surely would.


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08 Aug 2012, 9:24 pm

I agree with you. I think that localism is more sustainable on a global scale.


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08 Aug 2012, 9:33 pm

nominalist wrote:
I agree with you. I think that localism is more sustainable on a global scale.


I think things like the 100 mile diet are worthy of promoting. Its tough in most places but were I live I can collect oysters in months without "r"s and crabs in months with them Bread is tougher we try to source local flour for our bread not always succeeding.


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08 Aug 2012, 10:30 pm

Yes, but just localism in general. I think that, sooner or later, we may be pushed in that direction.


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08 Aug 2012, 11:44 pm

nominalist wrote:
You realize that the video is a parody, right?


It's not a parody at all. You can't watch the videos on their website anymore since I guess they realized people thought they were crazy. They had 4 scenarios of life in cities in 2040. 'Planned-opolis" and "Renew-abad" were their ideal scenarios,"Communi-City" was basically what they predict will happen if we acted too late, and "Sprawl-ville" was a wholly negative prediction of what life would be like if they didn't act at all. You can find the videos elsewhere if you dig around for them.