Suicide Prevention ethical?

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22 Oct 2012, 2:04 pm

blackelk wrote:

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When it comes to suicide, I always found it somewhat funny that nobody really seems to give a sh** until the person has actually committed it.

People care. It's the only crime you can be arrested for attempting, but not arrested for committing.

Anti-suicide laws are among the most ret*d laws ever made. They only serve to increase the number of suicides since those attempting or contemplating suicide will go to even greater lengths to ensure that they succeed.

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22 Oct 2012, 4:26 pm

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Anti-suicide laws are among the most ret*d laws ever made.

In the case of attempted suicide, being arrested is more like being taken into protective custody. The purpose of the arrest isn't to punish the person, but to force them to accept treatment.

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23 Oct 2012, 10:35 am

If Jesus knew he was going to be taken from the garden,captured,then crucified then isn't that the equivalent to " Death by Centurion"? If you have the knowledge you are going to die and don't try to avoid it that seems suicidal to me.I mean no offense to Jesus,this is just a philosophical question.Don't get a bee in your bonnet over it.

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23 Oct 2012, 1:47 pm

YippySkippy wrote:

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Anti-suicide laws are among the most ret*d laws ever made.

In the case of attempted suicide, being arrested is more like being taken into protective custody. The purpose of the arrest isn't to punish the person, but to force them to accept treatment.

Why not just section them under the Mental Health Act?

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23 Oct 2012, 6:11 pm

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This is why Christians say Jesus sacrificed himself. He could have escaped, but chose not to.

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24 Oct 2012, 7:42 pm

I see absolutely no reason to argue that it's preferable to the world for a person to exist rather than not exist,
and considerable argument to be made to the contrary.

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24 Oct 2012, 7:50 pm

ValentineWiggin wrote:

I see absolutely no reason to argue that it's preferable to the world for a person to exist rather than not exist,
and considerable argument to be made to the contrary.

That would depend on which person, would it not?

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24 Oct 2012, 7:52 pm

antifeministfrills wrote:

YippySkippy wrote:

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Anti-suicide laws are among the most ret*d laws ever made.

In the case of attempted suicide, being arrested is more like being taken into protective custody. The purpose of the arrest isn't to punish the person, but to force them to accept treatment.

Why not just section them under the Mental Health Act?

Because doctors can't come to someone's house and drag them to the hospital. I mean, what you said is generally what happens. The police, and their power to arrest someone, are used to compel the person to get treatment. Someone attempts suicide may end up going for a ride in a cop car, but that ride's going to end at the hospital, not jail.

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24 Oct 2012, 7:52 pm

ruveyn wrote:

ValentineWiggin wrote:

I see absolutely no reason to argue that it's preferable to the world for a person to exist rather than not exist,
and considerable argument to be made to the contrary.

That would depend on which person, would it not?

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In some ways.
Humans aren't in short supply, though.

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24 Oct 2012, 7:54 pm

ValentineWiggin wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

ValentineWiggin wrote:

I see absolutely no reason to argue that it's preferable to the world for a person to exist rather than not exist,
and considerable argument to be made to the contrary.

That would depend on which person, would it not?

ruveyn

In some ways.
Humans aren't in short supply, though.

Seven billion and counting. Apparently most of them are not good enough for you or you are too good for them.

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24 Oct 2012, 7:58 pm

ruveyn wrote:

ValentineWiggin wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

ValentineWiggin wrote:

I see absolutely no reason to argue that it's preferable to the world for a person to exist rather than not exist,
and considerable argument to be made to the contrary.

That would depend on which person, would it not?

ruveyn

In some ways.
Humans aren't in short supply, though.

Seven billion and counting. Apparently most of them are not good enough for you or you are too good for them.

ruveyn

Meh?

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