Will Romney Take the Campaign to the Electoral College ?

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07 Nov 2012, 9:58 am

Donald Trump is outraged and thinks the election is a sham. But it is not over yet. The electoral college has not voted. Can Donald Trump convince the Obama collegiates that they should defect and vote for Romney? Remember heaven is hearing the cries of the poor aborted babies and that alone justifies going against the will of the people. But no Obama collegiate is going to defect unless Romney promises universal health care, more welfare ,guaranteed good paying jobs, and key cabinet positions for all those liberal democrats.



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07 Nov 2012, 2:22 pm

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Can Donald Trump convince the Obama collegiates that they should defect and vote for Romney?

He has a better chance of growing a full, natural head of hair.



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07 Nov 2012, 3:14 pm

He needs to go away. Quite honestly, he was never that good of a candidate to begin with.



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07 Nov 2012, 3:21 pm

The Electoral College holds it's votes on "the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December after the presidential election", which makes it December 17, 2012.

A faithless elector is one who casts an electoral vote for someone other than the person pledged or does not vote for any person. 24 states have laws to punish faithless electors. In 1952, the constitutionality of state pledge laws was brought before the Supreme Court in Ray v. Blair, 343 U.S. 214 (1952). The Court ruled in favor of state laws requiring electors to pledge to vote for the winning candidate, as well as removing electors who refuse to pledge. As stated in the ruling, electors are acting as a functionary of the state, not the federal government. Therefore, states have the right to govern electors. The constitutionality of state laws punishing electors for actually casting a faithless vote, rather than refusing to pledge, has never been decided by the Supreme Court. While many only punish a faithless elector after-the-fact, states like Michigan also specify that the faithless elector's vote be voided.

As electoral slates are typically chosen by the political party or the party's presidential nominee, electors usually have high loyalty to the party and its candidate: a faithless elector runs a greater risk of party censure than criminal charges.

Thus, it is unlikely that any member of the Electoral College will risk censure, fines, and/or imprisonment to put Mr. Romney in the White House.

Mr. Obama's job is secure for another 4 years, no matter what Donald Trump may say.


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07 Nov 2012, 3:51 pm

No, he will not and it wouldn't make a difference if he did.,



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07 Nov 2012, 4:00 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
Donald Trump is outraged and thinks the election is a sham. But it is not over yet. The electoral college has not voted. Can Donald Trump convince the Obama collegiates that they should defect and vote for Romney? Remember heaven is hearing the cries of the poor aborted babies and that alone justifies going against the will of the people. But no Obama collegiate is going to defect unless Romney promises universal health care, more welfare ,guaranteed good paying jobs, and key cabinet positions for all those liberal democrats.

Here are some of Trump's tweets:

Donald Trump wrote:
"We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided! ... Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! The world is laughing at us. ... This election is a total sham and a travesty. We are not a democracy! Our country is now in serious and unprecedented trouble...like never before. ... Our nation is a once great nation divided! The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.”

Others tweeted in response:

Steve Levitan wrote:
"Hey Trump, did you see Mitt Romney's concession speech? That's what graciousness and good hair looks like."


Alec Baldwin wrote:
"You trust the voters when they choose The Apprentice. But not now?"


Mark Ruffalo wrote:
"Donald Trump just called for a Revolution. Doesn't like democracy I guess."


The Donald is a sore loser. Nothing will come of it.


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07 Nov 2012, 4:04 pm

Trump is just a troll and looking for attention

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07 Nov 2012, 4:18 pm

Trump says s**t like this all the time. Conservatives keep Donald Trump around for moments like this when they want to kick and scream, but don't want to look like crybabies. So they send out Trump to get the anger and immaturity out of the party's system, knowing full well that no one takes the man seriously.

Besides, Gov. Romney knows better than to try something this foolish. First of all, it's an unwritten rule of political decorum that a presidential electorate representative casts the vote he was expected to cast. Second of all, it convincing 50+ electors to defect is an impossible task given the nature of the election and the fact that Romney lost the popular vote. (Albeit not by much.) Finally, Romney has already publicly conceded the election. Any action like that now would not only look desperate, but also horribly unpresidential.



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07 Nov 2012, 4:56 pm

Pay attention now. The voters of the electoral college are required by law (in most states) to vote according to their prior pledge.

Democrat electors are required to vote for the Democrat candidate elect.

There is nothing the Romney can do about it.

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07 Nov 2012, 4:57 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Trump is just a troll and looking for attention

an IRL Stephen Colbert


Trump is a loud mouth idiot.

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07 Nov 2012, 6:44 pm

There is nothing in the constitution that requires an electorate to honor his pledge. The electoral college was set up as an additional check and balance against mob rule.



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07 Nov 2012, 6:59 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
There is nothing in the constitution that requires an electorate to honor his pledge. The electoral college was set up as an additional check and balance against mob rule.


State laws, however, exist that will punish an electorate for not honouring his pledge.

He can decide to defect, but it's his ass on the grill for it.


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07 Nov 2012, 7:08 pm

But if an electorate elects a candidate that is not pro-life he will have to answer to God.



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08 Nov 2012, 9:25 am

androbot2084 wrote:
But if an electorate elects a candidate that is not pro-life he will have to answer to God.


I am quite prepared to be accountable to my creator for my pro-choice beliefs. I am reasonably certain that I am not alone in this.


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08 Nov 2012, 9:46 am

androbot2084 wrote:
There is nothing in the constitution that requires an electorate to honor his pledge. The electoral college was set up as an additional check and balance against mob rule.


There are laws in most of the States which require an elector to vote for the candidate of the ticket which elected the elector.

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08 Nov 2012, 11:58 am

androbot2084 wrote:
But if an electorate elects a candidate that is not pro-life he will have to answer to God.

No he won't. If he elects a candidate who is anti-choice then he will have to answer to J.S. Mill, and the families of anyone murdered by the criminal who was forced to be born. If he elects a candidate who has been rejected by the country...