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23 Jan 2013, 3:55 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyCm4XdMCfg[/youtube]I know theres so much debate regarding Islam on PPR and also Feminism its times to tackle both at the same time!! ! Yes Islamic feminists exist!!


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23 Jan 2013, 8:35 am

Has no-one issue a Fatwah yet?

She would have been wiser to wear a hijab for the lecture.



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23 Jan 2013, 8:45 am

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She would have been wiser to wear a hijab for the lecture.


Are you sure this turkey who's readily agreeing that Christmas is a great idea shouldn't have put a bag on her head, like members of the Ku Klux Klan did and do?

That mode of dress is commonplace where I live.



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23 Jan 2013, 8:50 am

Tequila wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
She would have been wiser to wear a hijab for the lecture.


Are you sure she shouldn't have put a bag on her head, like members of the Ku Klux Klan did and do?

That mode of dress is commonplace where I live.

i call shenanigans on that statement. it isn't particularly common in Manchester. i live one block away from a mosque.


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23 Jan 2013, 8:50 am

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i call shenanigans on that statement.


I see it once or twice a day whenever I'm in Preston, sometimes more.

Most Muslim women either wear normal clothes or a hijab or jilbab, but niqab is worn too and it's not uncommon to see it.



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23 Jan 2013, 8:51 am

Tequila wrote:
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i call shenanigans on that statement.


I see it once or twice a day whenever I'm in Preston, sometimes more.

that doesn't make it common. you see many more women who are NOT wearing it.


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23 Jan 2013, 8:52 am

ArrantPariah wrote:
Has no-one issue a Fatwah yet?

Why so formal?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-17476982



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23 Jan 2013, 8:54 am

hyperlexian wrote:
you see many more women who are NOT wearing it.


It does make it not unusual if you're not there all day. It's quite common in ASDA at certain times of day and at weekends.

Most Muslim women don't wear such a Bronze Age garment, but there are those that do. I avoid them like the plague, as that's clearly what they want.



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23 Jan 2013, 8:59 am

Tequila wrote:
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you see many more women who are NOT wearing it.


It does make it not unusual if you're not there all day. It's quite common in ASDA at certain times of day and at weekends.

no, it is unusual in comparison to the number of women who are not wearing it. it would be helpful to your arguments if you didn't exaggerate. you are seeing what you are most afraid of seeing - muslims invading your spaces. but they are not so widespread that a full hijab in public can be called "common" in Preston.


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23 Jan 2013, 9:02 am

I have no problem with the hijab or the jilbab (both of these are common, and I don't have an issue with either of them, even if the jilbab makes them look like nuns - lots of people dress in hoodies, and I don't really have a problem with that, though I am upset at the lack of Rule 34). I don't think Muslims are intruding my spaces, and you're showing your own bias and alluding to religious hatred and/or racism. Not very bright.

The niqab, though, is a garment of the Arab desert and deserves to stay there. I think it's a garment that is worn mainly as a sectarian and divisive statement - it's nothing to do with the Quran, and is mainly associated with Islamic fundamentalism. (Hell, even The_Face_of_Boo has intimated that he rarely sees it, and he lives in a Muslim-majority country.)



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23 Jan 2013, 9:10 am

Tequila wrote:
I have no problem with the hijab or the jilbab (both of these are common, and I don't have an issue with either of them, even if the jilbab makes them look like nuns - lots of people dress in hoodies, and I don't really have a problem with that, though I am upset at the lack of Rule 34). I don't think Muslims are intruding my spaces, and you're showing your own bias and alluding to religious hatred and/or racism. Not very bright.

The niqab, though, is a garment of the Arab desert and deserves to stay there. I think it's a garment that is worn mainly as a sectarian statement.

uhhhh it was you that made the comparison to the KKK robe, making it sound like there are many more of them than there are actually are, and speaking of avoiding them in public spaces. i am not alluding to anything more than what you are stating outright in this very thread.


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23 Jan 2013, 9:12 am

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uhhhh it was you that made the comparison to the KKK robe


Yes, which it does have a visual similarity to (the white one even more so, like the interview with that wife of the Hamas MP I posted a week or two ago). I never mentioned the frequency or otherwise of the garment - that's something that you inferred.



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23 Jan 2013, 9:19 am

Tequila wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
uhhhh it was you that made the comparison to the KKK robe


Yes, which it does have a visual similarity to (the white one even more so, like the interview with that wife of the Hamas MP I posted a week or two ago). I never mentioned the frequency or otherwise of the garment - that's something that you inferred.

you called it "commonplace". i didn't infer anything at all.

the hijab does not actually look like the KKK robe - the silhouette is altogether different and the women don't often wear white, so you would have to be intentionally trying to make an unpleasant comparison. you said this:

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Are you sure this turkey who's readily agreeing that Christmas is a great idea shouldn't have put a bag on her head, like members of the Ku Klux Klan did and do?

you worded in a way that was intended to be offensive: "put a bag on her head", " like the Ku Klux Klan".

i couldn't have made this up if i tried.


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23 Jan 2013, 9:57 am

^^^ *Puts a paper bag over his head*weeeeee sorry im just being random and goofy atm.


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23 Jan 2013, 10:03 am

I was watching a show and a Muslim lady in traditional garb was talking about women's rights,on her coffee cup was this,"First God created man,than she had a better idea".
Brave lady.


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23 Jan 2013, 10:06 am

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I was watching a show and a Muslim lady in traditional garb was talking about women's rights,on her coffee cup was this,"First God created man,than she had a better idea".
Brave lady.


Muslim women talking about women's rights. Hm... would they want to have a debate about women's rights in the very home of Islam, I wonder? You know, that place where women are treated like talking livestock?