16 Feb 2013, 7:52 pm
(The title is just for MCavalera. I'm sure he'll appreciate it.) 
It's Peter Obore in the Torygraph. I very, very strongly disagree with him on other issues - like his constant excuses for Palestinian rejectionism and terrorism - but he's right here:
Quote:
Mid Staffs crisis: No one wants to talk about the real scandal of our time
Now the subject which nobody wants to talk about is the National Health Service. It is just over a week since the publication of the Francis report into Stafford hospital, where some 1,200 patients died in appalling circumstances. Had any other institution been involved in a scandal on this scale, the consequences would have been momentous: sackings, arrests and prosecutions. Had it involved a private hospital, that hospital would have been closed down already, and those in charge publicly shamed and facing jail.
Astonishing to relate, nothing has happened. Politicians have made perfunctory expressions of concern, while agreeing that there must be “no scapegoats”, and that Sir David Nicholson (the senior figure responsible) must remain in his job.
- The horse meat affair matters not a jot. The interesting question is why the deaths of more than 1,000 people in an NHS hospital have been ignored
Now the subject which nobody wants to talk about is the National Health Service. It is just over a week since the publication of the Francis report into Stafford hospital, where some 1,200 patients died in appalling circumstances. Had any other institution been involved in a scandal on this scale, the consequences would have been momentous: sackings, arrests and prosecutions. Had it involved a private hospital, that hospital would have been closed down already, and those in charge publicly shamed and facing jail.
Astonishing to relate, nothing has happened. Politicians have made perfunctory expressions of concern, while agreeing that there must be “no scapegoats”, and that Sir David Nicholson (the senior figure responsible) must remain in his job.
16 Feb 2013, 7:59 pm
Tequila wrote:
(The title is just for MCavalera. I'm sure he'll appreciate it.)
It's Peter Obore in the Torygraph. I very, very strongly disagree with him on other issues - like his constant excuses for Palestinian rejectionism and terrorism - but he's right here:
It's Peter Obore in the Torygraph. I very, very strongly disagree with him on other issues - like his constant excuses for Palestinian rejectionism and terrorism - but he's right here:
Quote:
Mid Staffs crisis: No one wants to talk about the real scandal of our time
Now the subject which nobody wants to talk about is the National Health Service. It is just over a week since the publication of the Francis report into Stafford hospital, where some 1,200 patients died in appalling circumstances. Had any other institution been involved in a scandal on this scale, the consequences would have been momentous: sackings, arrests and prosecutions. Had it involved a private hospital, that hospital would have been closed down already, and those in charge publicly shamed and facing jail.
Astonishing to relate, nothing has happened. Politicians have made perfunctory expressions of concern, while agreeing that there must be “no scapegoats”, and that Sir David Nicholson (the senior figure responsible) must remain in his job.
- The horse meat affair matters not a jot. The interesting question is why the deaths of more than 1,000 people in an NHS hospital have been ignored
Now the subject which nobody wants to talk about is the National Health Service. It is just over a week since the publication of the Francis report into Stafford hospital, where some 1,200 patients died in appalling circumstances. Had any other institution been involved in a scandal on this scale, the consequences would have been momentous: sackings, arrests and prosecutions. Had it involved a private hospital, that hospital would have been closed down already, and those in charge publicly shamed and facing jail.
Astonishing to relate, nothing has happened. Politicians have made perfunctory expressions of concern, while agreeing that there must be “no scapegoats”, and that Sir David Nicholson (the senior figure responsible) must remain in his job.
A camel is a horse designed by Parlement. NHS is a medical system designed by Socialists.
The bad news for the U.S. is we are just about to get what you guys have had since Clement Atlee sang -Jerusalem.-
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16 Feb 2013, 8:40 pm
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16 Feb 2013, 10:31 pm
Raptor wrote:
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The horse meat affair matters not a jot. The interesting question is why the deaths of more than 1,000 people in an NHS hospital have been ignored
Because to draw attention to the 1000+ deaths incriminates the NHS as a whole.
Can't have that.
I'm sure leaving people to die at the hospitals if they don't have insurance has resulted in a much better numbers in the US
16 Feb 2013, 10:48 pm
16 Feb 2013, 10:53 pm
ModusPonens wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Quote:
The horse meat affair matters not a jot. The interesting question is why the deaths of more than 1,000 people in an NHS hospital have been ignored
Because to draw attention to the 1000+ deaths incriminates the NHS as a whole.
Can't have that.
I'm sure leaving people to die at the hospitals if they don't have insurance has resulted in a much better numbers in the US
Yeah, but I doubt that many died of neglect at any one location over here in the same time-span.
Besides, your beloved NHS is supposed to be so superior that it prevents that.
16 Feb 2013, 11:19 pm
Raptor wrote:
Yeah, but I doubt that many died of neglect at any one location over here in the same time-span.
Besides, your beloved NHS is supposed to be so superior that it prevents that.
Besides, your beloved NHS is supposed to be so superior that it prevents that.
He's Portuguese, not British. No NHS for him.
While I'm about it: how much does a box of Manná Pate de Sardinha cost? We've near run out and I was wondering if the Portuguese gent knows how must it costs. Depending on his answer (and if he agrees) I'd like to buy some off him, postage costs dependent.
Yes, I'm quite serious. On a thread about the state of the UK NHS, I'm asking a Portuguese man about the price of sardine paté in Portugal.
17 Feb 2013, 1:21 am
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