# [ Long ] A Philosophy of Science v. Pseudo-Science

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20 Mar 2015, 5:26 pm

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Choose your units carefully so that c=1 and then you have E=m for a mass at rest..

That isn't true, unless mass is equal to 0 (in which case it just becomes E = 0 due to all of the units cancelling out due to the zero*), because m would have the unit only for mass, and E would still have the unit for mass times the unit for speed squared.

I assume that you are objecting to the use of geometrized units. In General Relativity, it is quite common to see papers and books that use geometrized units. To say that it is wrong is to say that General Relativity is wrong.

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20 Mar 2015, 5:41 pm

For what it's worth, I don't remember seeing much in Gravitation by Charles Misner, Kip Thorne, and John Wheeler that wasn't in geometrized units, but it's been about 35 years since I took a course with that as the textbook.

So I just now took my copy off of the shelf and looking through it at random, about the only place where I didn't see geometrized units was in the exercise in Box 2.2 on page 54:

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Show that the rest mass of a particle is related to its energy and momentum by the famous equation

(mc^2)^2=E^2-(pc)^2

or, equivalently (geometrized units!)

m^2=E^2-p^2.

The authors then provide two solutions to the exercise, both in geometrized units.

In my graduate class on the subject, I remember the prof mentioning geometrized units, but maybe in a sentence or two. From that point on, we used geometrized units as well.

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20 Mar 2015, 6:01 pm

It’s not really a matter of choosing units, but of establishing an equivalence between length and time.

We usually consider length and time to be two different, independent physical magnitudes, so we give them two different base units, like the metre and the second. However, time is just a particular direction in spacetime, so there’s no problem in measuring lengths along it with the same unit you use for spatial directions. To implement this, you need to impose a certain conversion relation between your units of length and time, so length can be measured in units of time and vice-versa.

On the other hand, if length and time have the same physical dimensions, speed, being length divided by time, becomes a dimensionless magnitude; therefore, the above-mentioned conversion relation can be established more cleanly by agreeing that a certain speed equals the dimensionless quantity 1, i.e., the bare number 1. The obvious choice for this speed within relativity is c, the speed of light. If c = 1 (just 1, no measurement unit), m c² = m.

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The only exception for this is a unit in degrees, in which case 0 degrees does not cancel out. Notice how Fahrenheit and Celsius are in degrees, because there are valid temperatures in those units that drop into the negative,

The reason temperature is measured in such an odd way is that, in everyday life, the existence of an absolute zero is neither readily apparent, nor significant, so people began to measure temperature long before such a limit was discovered. The key isn’t really the word degree—note how angles do have a definitely meaningful zero, and a meaningful addition whose identity element is indeed the zero angle, equal to zero degrees.

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but Kelvin is not in degrees, because 0 K (or just 0) constitutes the very lowest temperature anything in the universe may theoretically have (i.e. no negatives are valid).

In fact, some simple thermodynamic systems can have negative absolute temperatures; however, that doesn’t mean “colder than absolute zero”, but “hotter than infinite temperature”. They can never be in thermal equilibrium with ordinary systems and will always lose heat to them till their temperature reaches a positive value, going through infinity in the process and never passing through zero.

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20 Mar 2015, 6:24 pm

Spiderpig wrote:
It’s not really a matter of choosing units, but of establishing an equivalence between length and time.

We usually consider length and time to be two different, independent physical magnitudes, so we give them two different base units, like the metre and the second. However, time is just a particular direction in spacetime, so there’s no problem in measuring lengths along it with the same unit you use for spatial directions. To implement this, you need to impose a certain conversion relation between your units of length and time, so length can be measured in units of time and vice-versa.

On the other hand, if length and time have the same physical dimensions, speed, being length divided by time, becomes a dimensionless magnitude; therefore, the above-mentioned conversion relation can be established more cleanly by agreeing that a certain speed equals the dimensionless quantity 1, i.e., the bare number 1. The obvious choice for this speed within relativity is c, the speed of light. If c = 1 (just 1, no measurement unit), m c² = m.

That's a good explanation.

It also simplifies the metric ds^2=-dt^2+dx^2+dy^2+dz^2 since t is inseparable from x, y, and z.

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20 Mar 2015, 6:26 pm

I'm definitely getting too old. Looking at my notes I made in MTW's Gravitation, I have little or no idea what I meant when I wrote them. 35 years ago, they made perfect sense.

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20 Mar 2015, 11:04 pm

^ ^ Thanks both of you this has really cleared up my understanding of the issue. Really wonderful explanation Spiderpig

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20 Mar 2015, 11:44 pm

On the subject of using the same units for distance and time, Grace Hopper used to hand out nanoseconds. Click on the link below to see Grace Hopper give David Letterman a nanosecond.

I used to know someone who was given a nanosecond by Grace Hopper. He was pretty proud of that nanosecond.

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21 Mar 2015, 4:12 am

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I said make one of the VARIABLES =0.

What variables?
Assuming the velocity of light to be constant... either E or M.

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And how fast relative to what must a PROTON travel to have it's mass?

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Depends on what exactly you mean by mass. If you mean rest mass, it doesn’t depend on the speed of the proton relative to anything. If you mean relativistic mass (though I think this concept is currently being abandoned to reduce confusion, as it’s enough to talk about the total energy of the particle),

If a particle has no energy (or no relativistic mass), there simply is no particle. So, for the quotient

m / √(1 - v² / c²)

not to vanish as m approaches zero (the case of a photon), v needs to approach c. Any speed other than the speed of light causes a particle with zero rest mass to have zero energy, so photons can only exist travelling at the speed of light relative to any reference frame.
Righto. Even for a photon assumed to have no mass you will get E=0*C^2... no mass and no energy, according to the equation. No physical existence and not capable of any physical effect.

C, being the velocity of light (velocity, by definition, being a function of distance and time) both E and M will have a component of distance/time. If E and M are to have any value at all they must have a time/distance component even if it is a portion of C or the equation is meaningless.

General Relativity compounds the problem by asserting that space/time can be bent or shrunk into nothing so that there is no distance and no time.

As I said, E=MC^2 seems to work in some instances and situations... e.g. cathode ray tube, chemical and nuclear reactions... but in the supposed annihilation of particles of matter with anti-matter there are wide discrepancies between predicted results and measured results.

It is not the universal "proof" of fantastic speculations that it is made out to be in the popular media.

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21 Mar 2015, 4:29 am

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In fact, some simple thermodynamic systems can have negative absolute temperatures; however, that doesn’t mean “colder than absolute zero”, but “hotter than infinite temperature”. They can never be in thermal equilibrium with ordinary systems and will always lose heat to them till their temperature reaches a positive value, going through infinity in the process and never passing through zero.
Brilliant! That's the Kleinest Klein Bottle or Mobiest Mobius Ring I've ever heard of! I'd like to see the experiment that can test that one!

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21 Mar 2015, 8:18 am

It is much better, I think, to look at it as E^2=m^2+p^2 where p is the relativistic momentum. For the photon, m=0 and so E=p.

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General Relativity compounds the problem by asserting that space/time can be bent or shrunk into nothing so that there is no distance and no time.

I have no idea where you get that unless you are talking about spacetime within black holes. Even within black holes, if you were to fall into one, it is (or was) thought that you would become infinitely stretched due to massive differences in tidal forces between feet and head while at the same time you would be compressed to zero volume. (See the short piece on the fate of the experimental astrophysicist standing on the surface of a freely collapsing star in MTW's Gravitation, somewhere around pages 700 or 800 or so, iirc.)

Can you expound on what you mean and provide relevant citations?

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C, being the velocity of light (velocity, by definition, being a function of distance and time) both E and M will have a component of distance/time. If E and M are to have any value at all they must have a time/distance component even if it is a portion of C or the equation is meaningless.
Using geometrized units, you don't get trapped by such speculation.

Ignoring geometrized units, I fail to see how a mass has any time/distance component. Please explain.

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21 Mar 2015, 8:45 am

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Believing in false science allows the comfort of having something to believe in without the discomfort of actually having to learn something.

Brilliant observation.

What the kooks don't understand is that science is never overturned by someone who doesn't understand the accepted science. It takes an expert on the accepted science to understand its shortcomings and see how their conjecture can improve our understanding.

For example, Albert Einstein was not ignorant of the physics of the day. He understood it extremely well. If he had not understood the physics, he could not possibly have created the revolutions in physics that he did. Without that understanding, he could not possibly have contributed anything to physics.

I challenge anyone to provide even one example of someone introducing new ideas in science who did not have a great expertise in the theories that his theories replaced.

The funny thing is how the kooks claim they aren't getting a fair hearing on their "ideas" when it is clear to any real expert in the field the very real failures of those ideas are quite obvious.

That is why one of the things I look at for anyone making claims to revolutionize some field of science is their credentials to evaluate expertise in the fields they claim to have changed. If they aren't experts in what they are want to overturn, then their so-called ideas are totally worthless.

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21 Mar 2015, 9:00 am

Yes Eric, the concept of the self-taught researcher toiling away in complete social isolation arriving at a discovery that redefines every aspect of science is nothing more than a myth. No STEM credentials usually means that the person arrived at his or her pseudo-scientific conclusions by watching YouTube videos and listening to Art Bell (and others like him). To them, "Research" means nothing more than "I saw it on the Internet".

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21 Mar 2015, 10:55 am

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Believing in false science allows the comfort of having something to believe in without the discomfort of actually having to learn something.

Brilliant observation.

What the kooks don't understand is that science is never overturned by someone who doesn't understand the accepted science. It takes an expert on the accepted science to understand its shortcomings and see how their conjecture can improve our understanding.

For example, Albert Einstein was not ignorant of the physics of the day. He understood it extremely well. If he had not understood the physics, he could not possibly have created the revolutions in physics that he did. Without that understanding, he could not possibly have contributed anything to physics.

I challenge anyone to provide even one example of someone introducing new ideas in science who did not have a great expertise in the theories that his theories replaced.

The funny thing is how the kooks claim they aren't getting a fair hearing on their "ideas" when it is clear to any real expert in the field the very real failures of those ideas are quite obvious.

That is why one of the things I look at for anyone making claims to revolutionize some field of science is their credentials to evaluate expertise in the fields they claim to have changed. If they aren't experts in what they are want to overturn, then their so-called ideas are totally worthless.

Well, that depends on what kind of science one is speaking of.

If we are speaking of the science of physics, math, geometry, OR ENGINEERING,
well of course,

ONE MUST BE WELL 'VERSED' IN THE SCIENCE OF IT TO
DO THE SCIENCE OF IT

However, if we are speaking of the science of human

WELL being, IN MIND AND BODY BALANCE

of course NOT.

Science shows the there is an inevitable decrease in human strength after the age of 30.

Science shows this based on statistics of a population of human beings who are functionally disabled from simply not moving and sitting on their butts in front of screens most of their life now, fixated a few feet away, focusing on a screen, for hours at a time, often without a break, TO EVEN LIVE A MORE FULLY FLESH AND BLOOD LIFE.

I prove that wrong everyday, 'EVERYNOW', and science, per the scientific method, OVERALL, has 'no idea' how I do it.

And so many people spend their life now, in an area of mechanical cognition rather than sensory and emotional intelligence, including proprioception, which some health scientists now call the 6th sense THAT there are not even enough test subjects who have explored their internal powers of senses and emotions in synergy in mind and body balance to even frigging have an experiment, in the general population.

One of the main reasons I can do it, is, I don't listen to JUST science in regard to human health, as I easily realize science cannot adequately measure human health, as science cannot adequately measure the internal life of human emotions and sensory abilities that can only be enhanced in many other non-standard IQ forms of intelligence from an internal journey, moreover, than a so-called objective materialistic one that the scientific method is good at testing.

'Philosophy of Human Being MIND AND BODY BALANCE' attempts to attack the issues that science cannot handle, and will likely never be able to measure, with the scientific method, close to adequately.

So, here friend, you try to explain how I can do this linked below. It's all in video evidence. I am no jacked-up steroid dude doing this below, in fact, my testosterone is measured recently at 277, per MEDICAL record, which is somewhere around the level of a 75 year old man.

I am just a so-called normal middle-aged physical specimen of a male at age 54, who according to science from those testosterone levels should be weaker than a normal middle-aged specimen of a male at age 54, who can lift several hundred pounds more weight on this machine, videoed below, as any elite Marine Dude who works out at the elite military gym, where the video is taken of me parallel leg pressing 930LBS, slowly, with my arms raised in the air, 14 times.

A year and a half ago, I gained a higher internal power of emotion of human being that may have a metaphor of CHI, Kundalini, KI, Qi, or whatever, from other cultures but intuitively at that time, even documented on this website then, when I could lift about half as much pressing with my legs, at 500LBS, which was pretty amazing at that time, still, in consideration of it was after being a shut-in with 19 medical disorders for over 5 years that I also healed with this new higher emotional power of human being that I had never experienced before.

At that time, on the record here, I intuitively knew I would use this newly found internal emoting all innate, instinctual, and intuitively gained POWER of NEW EMOTION, TO DO AMAZING THINGS.

And just 19 months later I have done things that no other human can do at my age of 54, including dance walking a martial arts ballet all instinctually, personally developed style of dance walk that no other human has been observed doing, as I took no lessons to create it, for 3200 miles now, documented on literally thousands of Facebook pages by the folks videotaping me do it in the general public, who are amazed I can look like I float on terrestrial land like I am on skates, at 233LBS of long and still lean male, with frigging NIKE basketball shoes on, with grips on the bottom of the shoes, instead of a smooth surface on the shoes, as I Have documented here:

http://katiemiafrederick.com/2015/02/02/3000-miles-of-dance-walking-now/

And Now I LEAD A GROUP of twenty something year-old athletic youth and even lessoned ballet students at one of the top 100 dance clubs in the U.S., after 51 weeks of dancing there one night a week for 3-hours solid without a drink of water, where the people there call me not just a good dancer but a legend of dance, at times.

Keep in mind I was a shut-in in my bedroom for almost 66 months, with no doctor giving me any chance for recovery, with doctors giving up on me and telling me there was nothing they could do to help me with the worst pain known to mankind, type two Trigeminal Neuralgia, experienced from waking to sleeping for almost 66 months, along with Dysautonomia, where I would almost pass-out just raising my arms up over my head after eating a meal, or attempting to walk just one time around my neighborhood block.

Science says according to the statistics that there is no way I should be able to do what I can do.

No one understood a way out of my human hell, except for me.

I did it with my own method of imagination, creativity, AND THE REAL HUMAN EMPOWERING EMOTIONS OF RELATIVE FREE WILL, FAITH, HOPE, AND BELIEF, THOUGH A HIGHER PHYSICALLY ENHANCED CREATIVE INTELLIGENCE REGULATING EMOTIONS, SENSORY INTEGRATION; ALSO ENHANCING COGNITIVE EXECUTIVE FUNCTIONING, INCLUDING FOCUS, AND SHORT TERM MEMORY.

THIS WAS ALL A TOTALLY INNATE INSTINCTUAL AND INTUITIVE INTERNAL EXPLORATION OF HUMAN BEING THAT I NOW CONTINUE TO PERFECT A PRACTICE OF AS I AM CONTINUALLY VIEWED BY OTHERS AS HAVING EVEN MORE AMAZING HUMAN POTENTIAL, MORE FULLY REALIZED.

I AM NO MEDICAL SCIENCE DOCTOR.

I AM NO MEDICAL SCIENCE EXPERT.

I AM AN EXPERT OF THE INTERNAL JOURNEY THAT IS ME, AND ONLY ME.

SO YOU ARE INCORRECT, at least in my case, AS THERE ARE SOME SCIENCE FIELDS THAT CAN ONLY BE REVOLUTIONIZED BY NON-S0 CALLED SCIENTISTS IN THE SPECIFIC FIELD.

AND HEALTH SCIENCE, BY GOD, IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS OF REFUTATION OF WHAT YOU STATE HERE THAT I CAN EMPIRICALLY PROVE ON MY OWN, WITHOUT THE HELP OF anyone else's scientific method in the field of HEALTH SCIENCE.

AND HELL YES, THE FIELD OF HEALTH SCIENCE IS CONSIDERED A HARD SCIENCE, unlike psychology or psychiatry in the eyes of many in the science community.

IN FACT, currently psychologists and psychiatrists who have studied my case-study have looked to me for advice on how to revolutionize their practice to help their other case-studies of flesh and blood human life.

When I tell people, as I do my light-footed ballet dance-walk dance, all naturally created by me that I can press almost half a ton, with the graceful moves that are my legs, they often look at me with total disbelief, until I show 'em the PROOF WITH THEIR 'MOUTH HANGING OPEN, SAYING WTF'.

AND MY DOCTOR, MY MEDICAL DOCTOR, HAS NO CLUE HOW I DO IT, AND IS TOTALLY BAFFLED ABOUT IT, with an
'open mouth hanging open too'.

Truly it's 'fun' to 'prove' the so-called scientists AND OR EXPERTS AND 'SCIENCE' IN THE FIELD 'WRONG'.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS, IT MEANS HOPE FOR THE FOLKS THAT MEDICAL DOCTORS AND 'SCIENCE' HAS GIVEN UP ON.

THE TRUE HUMAN 'MAGIC' IS WITHIN.

YA CAN CALL IT PSEUDOSCIENCE ALL YA WANT BUT I CAN PROVE IT OWN MY OWN, AS I GO MY OWN WAY, and make human miracles happen everyday, EVERY NOW of my life.

And here is just one example of what I can do with so-called super human strength that science has no clue HOW I DEVELOPED, WITHOUT THE INTERNAL TOOLS OF SCIENTIFIC METHOD TO REPEAT THE EXPERIMENT THAT is the case-study that is me, IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT HERE, YET.

Truly as a human being, one of the POTENTIALLY most dangerous things a person can do, is believe what folks tell them they cannot do or RECOVER FROM.

OH YEAH, AND THEN THERE IS THAT AUTISTIC THINGY, BY WAY of acknowledgement of my doctors, I CURED THAT TOO, EVEN WITH SOME EMPIRICAL MEASUREMENT OF THE AUTISM QUOTIENT TEST, MOVING FROM 44 to 45 to an 11.

AND the non-science established test of the AQ quiz from 195 to 92, and the Emotional Intelligence test from the mid 50's to a 95.

Yes, I've also cured Autism, something that science says there is not a way to do yet.

And hell yes, it was an accurate diagnosis, as I was also non-verbal to age 4.

And for further proof, I can socially attract literally hundreds of gorgeous females to take photos with me with smiles grinning from ear to ear, over my non-verbal prowess in human reciprocal communication, and by GOD over 51 weeks I have the irrefutable evidence for that too, right here, in case someone pooh pooh's the idea that I cannot effectively reciprocally socially communicate IN EXCELLENCE, IN REAL LIFE, OVERCOMING AUTISM, PER THAT SOCIAL DEFICIT, ALL THE WAY.

http://katiemiafrederick.com/2014/12/09/gods-muse-of-dance/

YA SEE, here's the thing, it's not enough to be a TECHNICAL scientist to revolutionize human well-being or even the science of it.

One must first learn to become a human being with fuller potential before one can revolutionize what it even means to be human being AGAIN, LIKE OUR SO-CALLED PRIMITIVE ANCESTORS AND GENETIC COUSINS.

HUMANS, OVERALL, HAVE SIMPLY LOST TOUCH WITH THEIR INNATE instincts, and intuitive ways of emotionally and sensory thinking without ABSTRACT WRITTEN WORDS OR CULTURAL BYPRODUCTS TO GET in the way, of achieving fuller human potential in health and well being the way I have empirically evidenced in my own case-study WITHOUT THE HELP OF ANY OUTSIDE EXPERTISE, OR TEXTBOOK KNOWLEDGE OF HEALTH AND WELL BEING.

IN FACT, I HAVE A BS IN HEALTH SCIENCE, along with BA degrees in Anthropology, and Social Sciences Interdisciplinary,

AND HONESTLY, OVERALL, THAT'S WHAT THAT IS:

B.S: BULL AND SOMETHING ELSE.

THE SCIENCE OF MID 50'S FOLKS THEN, SHOWED photos of folks my age, NOW, treading water all gray haired in a pool for seniors.

All I can say back to that now, IS

HA!
THAT WAS AND IS BS.

IF I BELIEVED IT WAS TRUE (the statistical science of it for human potential), I could be sitting on mall benches on Sunday afternoons watching football, or vegetating in front of my computer, or on a LAZY BOY, RECLINED BACK EVERY NIGHT, WATCHING real life go by, AS OVERALL THAT IS THE KIND OF MIDDLE AGE functionally disabled PERSON THOSE STATISTICS, OVERALL, ARE BASED ON, THEN AND NOW, TOO.

Instead, twenty-something year old women offer their back ends to me, aggressively as such, AT that top 100 dance club in the U.S., rubbing up my front end parts, 'cause 'that's the way they like it', age 54 or NOT.

Baby, that's real life HUMAN science, of what it even means to survive at the most base human instinct.

And science "ain't" got a tool to touch 'it', the way I practice excellence in it in case-study way, 'everynow'
of every now.

This is much more important that math or physics.

Close to 50-percent of Adult Americans are on some kind of pain medication for a chronic pain disorder.

Close to one-third of school-age children are assessed with pre-diabetic type two diabetes.

And prescriptions of psychotropic drugs are skyrocketing for both adults and children, who often haven't a clue of
why they feel so down, depressed and hopeless about life, with a variety of somatic body pains, ranging from headaches, stomach discomfort, to other vague aches and pains,

But I do, at least in my case.

The way out, is out there but truly it's in HERE, IN PHYSICAL INTELLIGENCE, THE empowering emotions of human relative free will, faith, hope, and belief along with TRUST IN THE WAY IT WORKS, PER ALL NATURAL HUMAN INNATE, INSTINCTUAL, AND INTUITIVE GIFTS.

AND TRULY MOST IMPORTANTLY THE POWER OF HUMAN IMAGINATION AND CREATIVITY SET FREE, WITHOUT AN overbearing mechanical cognition mind, TO orchestrate the greaTEST symphony of Nature currently known that is HUMAN BEING FULLER POTENTIAL.

THIS IS ART BABY; OPPOSITE FROM SCIENCE.

AND TRULY any philosophy that is going to help human health and well-being balance in mind and body will have to be a HUMAN ART PROJECT AND NOT SCIENCE, ALONE, AS HUMAN AND NATURE IS ART, OVERALL, NOW, IN TAPESTRY AS IS.

SCIENCE is only a RELATIVELY small bony skeleton that attempts to scribe formulas for how it works but without flesh and blood of living human life innately, instinctually, and intuitively the SCIENCE of human being

AND THE ART OF GOD PER THE NATURE THAT IS IN HUMAN BEING CAN MORE FULLY STILL BE ALIVE AND

IS 'LIVING COLOR' FOR THOSE WHO ACTUALLY MORE FULLY LIVE IT IN REAL FLESH AND BLOOD LIFE.

THIS IS PHILOSOPHY OF HUMAN BEING 101.

WELCOME.

I AM THE FIRST TEACHER EVER,

TO PRESENT IT LIKE THIS,

SIMPLY AS I AM GIFTED WITH

THE PRESENT

OF

IT
AS
JUST IS

WITH REAL FLESH AND BLOOD JUSTICE.

AND IN REALITY WHEN IT COMES TO HUMAN BEING

FLESH AND BLOOD WELL-BEING,

IT IS SCIENCE THAT IS CURRENTLY PSEUDO,

AND THE ART OF HUMAN LIFE THAT IS REAL.

AND I CAN PROVE THAT PER CASE-STUDY IN LIVING COLOR,

AS IS CURRENTLY MY PROJECT HERE, IN HOPES THAT OTHER FOLKS

WILL ACCOMPLISH MORE, AS REAL LIFE SUPERMEN AND/OR SUPERWOMEN TOO;

Perhaps not here, but before all of what I say and DO, is done, perhaps somewhere

else.

YES, TO BE CLEAR ONCE AGAIN, WHEN IT COMES TO LIVING HUMAN BEING IN MIND AND BODY

BALANCE:

SCIENCE IS NOT JUST PSEUDO;

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21 Mar 2015, 11:06 am

Thank you for that rambling example of pseudo-scientific psychobabble.

Science seeks knowledge of the real world.

Belief proves nothing.

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21 Mar 2015, 11:40 am

Fnord wrote:
Labeling a personal opinion as 'Science' does not make it Science.

What I am stating here is Science, alone, will NOT work WELL to increase human fuller potential in
mind and body health and well being balance.

I am stating that it is ART of Philosophy of Human being that will WORK TO INCREASE HUMAN POTENTIAL.

AND IN THIS CASE, ART IS PHILOSOPHY; NOT SCIENCE OVERALL, WHEN IT COMES TO THE HUMAN
CONDITION IN MIND AND BODY BALANCE.

SCIENCE ALONE, WILL NOT WORK; at most SCIENCE IS PSEUDO, WHEN SCIENCE AS A TOOL IS USED IN
ATTEMPTS TO INCREASE FULLER Human potential in mind and body balance.

TRULY it shouldn't take a rocket scientists to understand that,

And it CANNOT as HUMAN NATURE OVERALL IS ART, AND NOT SCIENCE.

I MEAN we can talk about physics, science, geometry, and engineering in a philosophy, religion, and politics forum ALL day long if YOU and others LIKE BUT MY interest is in the philosophy of curing human suffering and misery.

And science is no TOOL THAT WILL WORK FOR THAT PHILOSOPHY OF THE HUMAN CONDITION, overall.

So go back to your physics, math, geometry, and engineering; I mastered that and lost interest in it, in grade school, as truly it's only good for creature comforts, and truly all I need is shelter over my head, something to eat, HUMAN FLESH AND BLOOD CONNECTIONS OF friends, and music/dance to have TOTAL HUMAN BLISS.

HOW many people can say that today; RELATIVELY FEW.

But in the history of human being, almost ALL, AS STILL IS THE CASE IN 'PRIMITIVE SMILING CULTURES', where the most peaceful 20 societies in the world, are assessed as living in this sharing human way of life, rather than a bloated materialistic extension where tools have become VICARIOUS VIRTUAL HUMAN life now, instead of flesh and blood human being.

And that is the source of most all human suffering and misery for folks with 'eye's like mine THAT yes, are RELATIVELY rare and isolated in social pockets around the world, but never the less, 'we' are 'REAL' and love life as is, without bloated misery and suffering of the human that has become AN extension of tools of culture and written language, rather than human flesh and blood FEELING being.

I remember one, stating there is nothing of real value in philosophy to revolutionize human life, AND NOTHING SAID HERE PER PHILOSOPHICAL THOUGHT that can revolutionize human life; yes, per that 'amazing' photographic-like memory for text that I possess, as one stated that here, once several years back, IN words TO that effect.

One is INCORRECT my friend, and I have already proven that, in my case study, irrefutably as such.

And I am honestly smiling from ear to ear 'RIGHT' NOW.

AND AS LONG AS one's cynicism of the greater human potential (LIGHT) that does exist, per the art and philosophy that CAN BE HUMAN LIFE AS REAL HUMAN SUPERMEN AND SUPERWOMEN,

I suppose one's expression will not change either.....

And that part is TOTALLY IN one's BALL PARK, AND potentially A SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY, IN DEED OF why science will not work for HUMAN MIND AND BODY BALANCE, ALONE, for one either..

I suppose....

AS TRULY one offers little evidence of WHO one REALLY IS HERE,

definitely, THANK GOD,

NOT MINE, ANYMORE, IN 195 AQ LAND/PRISON/ZOO THAT I TOO,

once lived in FALSE, for flesh and blood human nature life, per the TRUEST FULLEST
GIFT OF Mother NATURE TRUE, AKA GOD.

Have a nice now, whatever that means to you,

Sincerely,

FRED.

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