Dangers of the Extraterrestrial Disclosure Movement

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I do like to keep an open mind about most things, however I can't help but agree that we should be very sceptical with regards to these types of claims. whether or not life exists outside our own earth is arguably the most profound question that mankind can ask, and to imagine that an alien corpse or alien technology is locked up in Area 51 or wherever else is simply unthinkable. Governments around the world spend billions probing the solar system simply in the hope of finding the most basic single celled organisms or even just the conditions where life could have conceivably existed at some point in time. I think some secrets are too big to conceal. Some of the other claims are just plain silly, some crazy people out there!

This topic gets even worse when you add in the people who claim to have been abducted, educated, and implanted by aliens - not on the face of such claims but rather the content of what they deliver.

My own inquiry on the UFO phenomena really puts me in a lot of agreement with Jacques Vallee and possibly even to an extent Tom Horn or others who would see it as a fundamentally spiritual/extra-dimensional phenomena and a very bad one at that. Part of the problem with the UFO phenomena being dubbed 'extra-terrestrial' is its a huge leap of conclusion that isn't founded on anything more than what such entities are supposedly telling people. The behavior of the phenomena is so strange and has so much in line with the crypto-zoology and cryptoid side of things that its far more likely that we're seeing the fringe areas of reality where dimensional barriers and even possibly the line between thought entity and matter start to melt. The types of physical and multi-viewer evidence has a lot in common with the kinds of stories that have been told throughout the ages on everything from Irish fairies to sylphs (air ship people of the dark ages), incubi/succubi, etc. etc.. and one can add to that Native American mythology about the grays, giants/nephilim, bigfoot, you name it.

It may well be that disclosure is really a moot point right now though with the sheer amount of discussion on the issue as you said - all over the internet, all over Hollywood, and for the number of serious investigators who've done what they can to assemble as many sides of the issue as possible. As for any ideas that such beings want to give us free energy but the world governments are stopping them - for one there's no shortage of mediums out there who they could broadcast such blueprints. Similarly, lol, we supposedly in the same crypto world have demigods running around the Earth as it is! iIf you really want to get things done just telephone Anastasia in Siberia through the noosphere for ideas to save the world from pollution or exhaustible resources. If you REALLY want to get ambitious try the White Brotherhood of Light and see what Blavatski's and Bailey's guys and girls out in aetheric Chamballah have to say about it!

Lol, digging into that can easily make a person feel like they need to go smoke some crack to recover some semblance of normalcy but that's the occult world for you and there's a lot of diarrhea that has to be panned through to find anything solid or redeeming in any way. As for world governments I think that's about all they can really tell you "We know what they SAY they are, but as for what they are in actuality - we're as clueless as you are". Unless one is to buy into the tribulation end times alien deception model where the governments are working with them to bring in the Antichrist I think the scenario that the governments around the world are trying to cover helpless ignorance rather than knowledge is the most likely.

Not one decent piece of empirical evidence supports the existence of alien visitors to this planet. Not an iota. Not a speck.

It is all speculation.

If you want to prove aliens came here, show is the bodies, show us the artifacts. Let them be carefully examined by scientifically competent observers.

ruveyn

The alien and alien disclosure issues are red herrings from what I have seen... they are meant to take people off the trail of the fact our government has developed these super technologies.

The "conspiracy theorists" and the "skeptics" have both been bamboozled on this one from what I have seen. They have everyone chasing each others tales.

talking about "ritual abuse" you have probably heard of this well know event of hysteria:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_ ... se_scandal

One of the basic techniques of a conman is to filter out those who are not likely to fall for the scam, in order to protect the scam form being exposed or criticized.

That is one of the reasons why fishing emails are so bad. You might think it is because the con-artist is poorly educated, but that is not necessarily the case. If they set the bar too high, they draw too much attention to themselves. People who are skeptical tend to ignore bad scam email rather than report them, it is ones they think would fool somebody attract more negative attention.

By setting the bar lower, that means whoever falls for them is more like to be easily manipulated, and not all all clued up. Once they fall for the scam they are too embarrassed to report it.

Say for instance they do a moderately advanced scam, those replying to it are more likey question what there are doing, and grill the scammer during the process.

Another technique is to appeal to people with superstitions and schizotypal mindset, make them feel special and misunderstood, and create and us vs. them mentality, this reliable because they can pull on these strong feelings to protect the scam.

This is precisely what you experienced on this forum.

Thank you for all the comments.

As a sociologist of religion, I find the disclosure movement to be a fascinating phenomenon to study. However, many (if not most) of the leaders of various factions of the movement are scammers who profit off of the vulnerability of some people.

What is interesting, is you can make financial gain out of a scam, selling a food or drug, without that consumable being physiologically harmful.

In many case there are substitutes with the properties the scammers need, that are not as physiologically harmful.

So in that case, the scammer could conceivably get more out of the scam than just financial gain. They have power over these people (firstly through manipulation, secondly through causing them physical harm), and there is a sadistic element.

^ Homeopathy, Botanicas, Radionics, Copper or Magnetic bracelets ... the list goes on.

The harm is not so much in the use of these things, but in the idea that the user can forgo helpful medical treatments.

Where is the statistical data from the OP and others pushing their own personal agenda here?

Who is doing the real fear mongering here?

There are people trying to make a name for themselves on this on all sides.