What Do We Think About John Boehner?

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Who is proposing we do that? Are you just making things up? We've been overspending for 30 years in part thanks to massive tax cuts. The Ryan plan called for additional massive tax cuts and a balanced budget decades from now. To say nothing of the actual debt. This childish temper tantrum is from a bunch of election year losers who can't deal with the loss.

And delaying the PPACA mandate has nothing to do with the debt whatsoever.

How are all those poor people going to pay for their insurance? Hmmm... Actually, the wars and taking ourselves of the gold standard is what led to our current condition. We need to cut all across the board. Also eliminate deductions.

PPACA includes revenue to pay for it's various programs. In fact it's bringing in some revenue right now and not yet paying much out. It has nothing to do with the current debt or deficit as suggested in the latest red herring from the anarchist wing of the GOP.



The US isnt a household. It pays millions of bills each day automatically as they arrive. They've got a week and a half to figure out which ones absolutely must be paid using a system that was not designed to do that. The operation of complex financial systems in the real world is not required to correspond to the needs of anarchist fanatics. The money will also not arrive smoothly to cover all needs. Some things would have to be ignored to save up to pay a bill that avoids default.

And the impact would go far beyond paying individual bills. It's being called a catastrophe by business interests for a reason.

What was Barack Obama proposing in 2006 when he opposed raising the debt ceiling? Was he an anarchist? What do you think the whole debt ceiling debate is all about? There are definitely more serious proposals than Paul Ryan's out there and for as lame as his is, at least it is a plan. It is a separate issue that I would oppose regardless but if you're not aware the debt ceiling will be reached on October 17th and is being tied in to this whole government shutdown business. Nobody seemed to really care that much about the supposed government "shutdown" so the debt ceiling is the next deadline they're scaring people about by falsely repeating the lie that the US is in danger of default if the debt ceiling isn't raised. You can whine about tax cuts all you want but no amount tax raises would even come close to paying for our bloated government. The day of reckoning is coming whether we like it or not, you can delay it and maybe you'll be dead by then but that's not the future I want to leave to my future grandchildren.

Delay Obamacare because it's a law the American people have opposed from the very start, if they really want to stop the law they'll send a message in 2014 just like they did in 2010... Or not, the Democrats can take back the House and fund it themselves then.

Politicians often posture on votes that have no consequences. Opposing and supporting things that would happen with or without them. But actually risking a default and actually shutting down the government are two entirely different dynamics. If you can't understand that, well, that's just funny. It's certainly not my problem.

And I'm certainly not whining. I'm just stating the facts of where part of the debt came from and that the far right wing is primarily interested in more tax cuts which will fuel even more debt. Any solution will require a mix of revenue and cuts. Because in reality, where I live, the only example of a balanced budget in 30 years came from a mixed solution. Anything else is a fantasy with no track record.

Move the goal posts around all you like but we both know your panties have been in a wad over PPACA. Spin away.

What we really need to do is ungerrymander the congressional districts, so that these vile, disgusting Repugs can no longer hold the country hostage.

that would require a transformation of millions of voters' spirituality. not likely to happen in this lifetime.

I've never liked that guy.

I've heard it said that women love a man who cries.












Well, do the ladies here just want to hug, cuddle and kiss this poor little fellow?

The Antideficiency Act of 1884, as ammended in (most recently) 1950. It addresses appropriated funds and how they are subdivided, "apportioned" and "allocated" before any of the appropriated funds can be expended by the Executive Branch.


Um . . .
You do realize this is the exact tactic being used by the Republicans, don't you? Except that the Republicans offer no negotiations even after they get their way, along with publicly bragging about how the debt ceiling is going to be another opportunity to get what they want.

The Republicans claim they want to negotiate, but they only want something that they can't have, so any "negotiations" at this point would be a waste of time.

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He does not look huggable or kissable,I'd like to poke at him with a sharp stick.

Aw.



See what you've done?

He always looks like he's wearing eye liner.

A cattle prod might be more effective.