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08 Oct 2013, 10:25 am

Misslizard wrote:
A cattle prod might be more effective.



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08 Oct 2013, 11:41 am

Now I'm thinking pitchfork......


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08 Oct 2013, 12:08 pm

He looks like he has a corn cob stuck up his ass.


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08 Oct 2013, 2:43 pm

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He does not look huggable or kissable,I'd like to poke at him with a sharp stick.

he should be made to go out in public wearing diapers.



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08 Oct 2013, 4:45 pm

^^^^Yes,a public walk of shame would do him good.


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08 Oct 2013, 5:26 pm

The difference here is that the GOP is not negotiating. They are saying, "give in to our demands or we'll wreck the economy. You like the economy, right?" They are saying that all the Democrats will get is that.



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08 Oct 2013, 5:27 pm

bonerman has an FB page which is full of demands that he wise up. (clicky)john Boehner's FB page



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08 Oct 2013, 5:36 pm

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A) The SC is the arbiter of Constitutionality and they ok'd Obamacare even with a conservative majority. As did a majority of the lower courts who dealt with it.
I thought that we the people part was pretty self explanatory. If this is the case that this SC or what ever
has the say of what is constitutional, and not the people, then we are already serving under a monarchy.


B) Obama has submitted a budget every single year.
No he has not, and if he did, he just tells the democrats to reject it. You seem to forget it is not PASSING A BUDGET that is unconstitutional.

C) Bush took the budget from 1.8 trillion to 3.1 before including $700 billion from TARP. Obama's budgets have topped out at 3.8 for years and deficits are falling as revenue recovers from the collapse. His signature policy hasnt kicked in yet and Republicans have had the House since 2010. He didnt start the Iraq war, or it's costs, but he did wind it down. And Obama can't control the automatic spending from food stamps and other programs that kick in during a historic economic collapse.
The Senate is the one rejecting it, and don't act like the Liberal media is Master Of Puppets, and believe everything they say.
Obama's Senate doesn't want to pass a realistic budget, and they win either way, Obama spends as much as he wants or a whole stinking lot, something the logical republican would obviously think is ludacris. Who spends more and more with no limit because of no budget, Obama. Bush inherited the peak of the economy from Clinton, who inherited the slump of our economy from bush sr.. Take highschool economics again, the economy is a wave, or LOOK AT THE SQUIGGLES EXPLAINING GROWTH AND DROP IN OUR ECONOMY!




D) GM is doing very well.
Goverment Motors vs Ford, nuff said

E) Why would he kill the President of Iran?
He supports Hezbollah, and killed every pro US iranian who started to protest. what did obama do? Shook his hand and said, "good job let's hang out and eat humus and Persian wine." the Iranian people were ready for us to squash that midget like we were helping lybia, well seems Obama thinks Lybians are more important than Iranians who think Americans are awesome.
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Are you saying that they usually station park rangers on the highways where someone might see something scenic and stop to see it better?

I'm no Republican, but in this instance, the Republicans don't really look like the party at fault.


They blocked off some apparently federal viewing areas along the highway. The agency responded to the state and said they were only trying to block access inside and to direct people to viewing areas. They are down now due to weather and the state says they'll watch how they go back up. So....

The Republicans cannot deal emotionally with the fact that 11 months ago they lost the Presidency, 8 House seats and 2 Senate seats. They expected a big win. Now their Obamacare busting dreams have collapsed and they've decided to hold the government, and the US credit rating, hostage.


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08 Oct 2013, 5:42 pm

BTW, is every aspie , other than thelibrarian, a liberal?
I'm getting and awful urge to start a massive Vermin Supreme style fillibuster movement against every applicable political debate across the US, who will join me? As long as the filibuster is Vermin Supreme style, liberals are invited too.


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08 Oct 2013, 5:49 pm

That one is creepy AP.From the neck down,Montgomery Burns.


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08 Oct 2013, 7:01 pm

appletheclown wrote:
simon_says wrote:

A) The SC is the arbiter of Constitutionality and they ok'd Obamacare even with a conservative majority. As did a majority of the lower courts who dealt with it.
I thought that we the people part was pretty self explanatory. If this is the case that this SC or what ever
has the say of what is constitutional, and not the people, then we are already serving under a monarchy.


B) Obama has submitted a budget every single year.
No he has not, and if he did, he just tells the democrats to reject it. You seem to forget it is not PASSING A BUDGET that is unconstitutional.

C) Bush took the budget from 1.8 trillion to 3.1 before including $700 billion from TARP. Obama's budgets have topped out at 3.8 for years and deficits are falling as revenue recovers from the collapse. His signature policy hasnt kicked in yet and Republicans have had the House since 2010. He didnt start the Iraq war, or it's costs, but he did wind it down. And Obama can't control the automatic spending from food stamps and other programs that kick in during a historic economic collapse.
The Senate is the one rejecting it, and don't act like the Liberal media is Master Of Puppets, and believe everything they say.
Obama's Senate doesn't want to pass a realistic budget, and they win either way, Obama spends as much as he wants or a whole stinking lot, something the logical republican would obviously think is ludacris. Who spends more and more with no limit because of no budget, Obama. Bush inherited the peak of the economy from Clinton, who inherited the slump of our economy from bush sr.. Take highschool economics again, the economy is a wave, or LOOK AT THE SQUIGGLES EXPLAINING GROWTH AND DROP IN OUR ECONOMY!




D) GM is doing very well.
Goverment Motors vs Ford, nuff said

E) Why would he kill the President of Iran?
He supports Hezbollah, and killed every pro US iranian who started to protest. what did obama do? Shook his hand and said, "good job let's hang out and eat humus and Persian wine." the Iranian people were ready for us to squash that midget like we were helping lybia, well seems Obama thinks Lybians are more important than Iranians who think Americans are awesome.
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Are you saying that they usually station park rangers on the highways where someone might see something scenic and stop to see it better?

I'm no Republican, but in this instance, the Republicans don't really look like the party at fault.


They blocked off some apparently federal viewing areas along the highway. The agency responded to the state and said they were only trying to block access inside and to direct people to viewing areas. They are down now due to weather and the state says they'll watch how they go back up. So....

The Republicans cannot deal emotionally with the fact that 11 months ago they lost the Presidency, 8 House seats and 2 Senate seats. They expected a big win. Now their Obamacare busting dreams have collapsed and they've decided to hold the government, and the US credit rating, hostage.


You are so woefully confused on just about every point that there isnt any point is trying to explain things to you.



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08 Oct 2013, 7:50 pm

simon_says wrote:
The difference here is that the GOP is not negotiating. They are saying, "give in to our demands or we'll wreck the economy. You like the economy, right?" They are saying that all the Democrats will get is that.


Do you think the Democrats are ready to negotiate at all about anything? Are you that delusional?

The Democrats have no intention of negotiating. They want to crack the whip and make the Republicans do whatever they say. And in the process, with a lot of help from the press, they are making it look like it is the Republicans who refuse to negotiate.

From http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/harry-reid-s-getting-the-fight-he-always-wanted-20131007?mrefid=mostread:
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The deadline to keep open the federal government was only two weeks away, when the White House quietly floated plans for a summit between President Obama and the four congressional leaders. The idea was to show Obama, his sleeves rolled up, engaged as Congress lurched toward a shutdown.

But when top administration officials reached out to Capitol Hill, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's office had a message for them: Don't do it. Reid's team argued such a meeting would suggest the Democrats were willing to negotiate when they weren't.

The White House listened. The summit was nixed. And no serious talks have occurred since.

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These days, Reid is more likely to be writing the Democratic playbook than burning it. As the government shutdown stretches into its second week, the White House has embraced Reid's hard-line, no-negotiations stance--at least so far.

"They won't talk," Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, complained Sunday on CNN. "They have not moved one inch."

Cruz and allied conservatives in the House may have brought about the shutdown by insisting on dismantling or defunding Obama's signature health care law, but Reid is firm about making them pay for it.

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Reid is setting the unyielding tone and the White House is letting him. "It sure looks to me like this is exactly the fight Senator Reid has been looking for for the last couple years," said Jim Manley, Reid's former communications director.

Reid's stiff stance was encapsulated in an offer letter he sent last week to Boehner, asking him to reopen the government with no strings attached. In exchange, Reid said he would appoint lawmakers to a budget conference committee. It was really no offer at all. Reid wanted both those outcomes; Boehner wanted neither.

...

Reid's current power comes, in part, from the remarkable party discipline he and his team have imposed. Of the last 25 Senate roll call votes, Senate Democrats note that all the Dems have voted together 23 times--including rebuffing multiple Boehner offers to reopen the government with various GOP strings attached.


In other words, the Republicans are trying to negotiate and it is the Democrats who refuse to negotiate at all.



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08 Oct 2013, 7:51 pm

Reports are that there is one national park that is still open -- Big Bend. But you have to enter from the South.



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08 Oct 2013, 7:54 pm

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In other words, the Republicans are trying to negotiate and it is the Democrats who refuse to negotiate at all.

:roll: ACA is NON-NEGOTIABLE!! ! IOW dems are not going to fall on their swords over this, no matter how much you may wish. if the dems cave on this then the rethugs basically will have carte blanche over anything and everything, including starving the government until it is small enough to strangle in the bathtub, to borrow the thuggish imagery of grover norquist.