I am angry about the Gov. Shutdown of Silkroad

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02 Oct 2013, 11:13 pm

No I never used it. What made me mad was the idea that was crushed. That people could come together, like minded, and form a marketplace of ideas without force or coercion. Do we freaking need to resort to a revolution for these dipshits to understand? Sorry. Why the hell do we need any of these politicians? Why can't we all become part of the collective agora?



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03 Oct 2013, 2:31 am

The lightbearer falls, but the light lives on. The Agora is dead. Long live the Agora!

We shall have to work harder.

But I'm not surprised the FBI is claiming a murder happened in Canada that the Canadians don't actually know about. Those Canucks are useless at running a country, right? :lol:

If Ulbricht *was* the Dread Pirate Roberts, I wonder when the new one will pop up?


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03 Oct 2013, 2:37 am

I'd be joining in your outrage, but the indictments include a couple of attempted contract killings in addition to the running a black market stuff, and that's pretty unambiguously criminal in my book.


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03 Oct 2013, 6:42 am

A couple of contract killings... which only the FBI know about, and not, say, the police in the area they supposedly took place. It's not uncommon for the US government to simply invent charges if they want to dispose of people (for example, accusing someone of insider trading if they refuse to hand over users data).


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03 Oct 2013, 8:40 am

It's not like they shut down eBay...



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03 Oct 2013, 9:37 am

zacb wrote:
No I never used it. What made me mad was the idea that was crushed. That people could come together, like minded, and form a marketplace of ideas without force or coercion. Do we freaking need to resort to a revolution for these dipshits to understand? Sorry. Why the hell do we need any of these politicians? Why can't we all become part of the collective agora?

A gathering place to conspire to commit murder ... buy and sell illegal drugs ... engage in prostitution ... I'm happy that Silk Road was shut down. The most sophisticated illegal marketplace and black-market bazaar on the Internet, with $1,200,000,000 in illicit, tax-free trade. I'm only disturbed that it took the Feds two years to shut it down, even though the founder used his personal email account in his transactions.

Good riddance.


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03 Oct 2013, 10:09 am

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zacb wrote:
No I never used it. What made me mad was the idea that was crushed. That people could come together, like minded, and form a marketplace of ideas without force or coercion. Do we freaking need to resort to a revolution for these dipshits to understand? Sorry. Why the hell do we need any of these politicians? Why can't we all become part of the collective agora?

A gathering place to conspire to commit murder ... buy and sell illegal drugs ... engage in prostitution ... I'm happy that Silk Road was shut down. The most sophisticated illegal marketplace and black-market bazaar on the Internet, with $1,200,000,000 in illicit, tax-free trade. I'm only disturbed that it took the Feds two years to shut it down, even though the founder used his personal email account in his transactions.

Good riddance.


I can't comment on all the marketplace across there, but there were never any hit sold on there. Matter of fact, most people laughed at those as frauds. The worse thing you were going to get on there is maybe copyright infringement, fake id, and drugs. lord knows we can't have that! Why, you need to believe in government and let it into your heart XD . (I loved how southpark mocked how the government has been turned into a civil religion XD. ) And lord forbid, I get some coochy for cash. Mean while, in SoCal, they will actually pay me to sleep around :D ! Perhaps we have learned that we do not live in a free market. Next time a liberal or socialist makes a comment about the ills of free markets, offer this up.



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03 Oct 2013, 10:13 am

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I'd be joining in your outrage, but the indictments include a couple of attempted contract killings in addition to the running a black market stuff, and that's pretty unambiguously criminal in my book.


I am not so much mad he was caught, as much as it being shut down. I just hate how the government does not allow voluntary commerce. To me, it seems like the only peaceful way we have to overthrow the government is the agora. If this fails, then the only way left to revolution is for people to take up arms, which I disagree with on consequential grounds and deontological grounds . But yeah, I gotcha. I wondered how I would have dealt with it. Normally, if something like this happened in a free economy, how would a person respond?



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03 Oct 2013, 10:14 am

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A couple of contract killings... which only the FBI know about, and not, say, the police in the area they supposedly took place. It's not uncommon for the US government to simply invent charges if they want to dispose of people (for example, accusing someone of insider trading if they refuse to hand over users data).


True. I remember a couple situations in a book called bye bye big brother. It really made me think about justice in the US. God help us.



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03 Oct 2013, 10:15 am

Forget any efftup rants, next time someone offers to sell me illegal drugs, weapons, or sex, I'll turn them in.

I've already "dropped the dime" on a couple of neighbors ... gratifying to watch them get hauled away ... the new neighbors are nicer, as well.


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03 Oct 2013, 10:16 am

Dealing drugs is illegal, unless you're big pharma. Nothing new about that.



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03 Oct 2013, 10:23 am

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Dealing drugs is illegal, unless you're big pharma. Nothing new about that.


That is too true. Or you are one of the anointed dealers :D . The government hates competition. :D



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03 Oct 2013, 10:24 am

http://www.policymic.com/articles/59777 ... e-internet

If he was selling meth,good riddance.


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03 Oct 2013, 10:35 am

He was selling meth.

Good riddance.


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03 Oct 2013, 10:39 am

Fnord wrote:
He was selling meth.

Good riddance.


So? What is it any business of yours? I am not saying meth is a good health decision, but what right does a government have in telling me what to eat, smoke, drink, or do? I thought liberals were for freedom. I guess I am wrong.



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03 Oct 2013, 11:28 am

So you would want someone selling meth or PCP living next door to you?Think of the common good,do you want to live in a neighborhood with people selling gack or shermans on the street corner?
The public has to pay when these jeetered out people show up at emergency rooms,the cost of the babies born to addicts,loss of real estate value for your home if they are next door,cost of law enforcement to deal with tweakers,if they have Medicaid,the cost of fixing their teeth,
the costs that landlords have to pay to clean up the toxic dump that the cooks leave behind.


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