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02 Nov 2014, 7:19 am

MCalavera wrote:
Any updates regarding what the Pope has done thus far? Anything worth praising him for?

No? Thought so ...


Recently he said this:
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Delivering an address to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, Pope Francis continued his habit of making provocative, seemingly progressive statements. The pontiff appeared to endorse the theory of the Big Bang and told the gathering at the Vatican that there was no contradiction between believing in God as well as the prevailing scientific theories regarding the expansion of our universe.

?When we read about creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But that is not so,? Francis said. ?He created human beings and let them develop according to the internal laws that he gave to each one so they would reach their fulfillment.?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wor ... no-wizard/

The Vatican actually took that stand decades ago but it bears repeating in today's anti-science climate so I'm glad he repeated it.



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17 Dec 2014, 10:08 am

Happy birthday, Frank!
...and thanks for remaining awesome. :wtg:


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20 Jun 2015, 7:05 am

More ass kicking!

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/18/world/pop ... ncyclical/


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21 Jun 2015, 9:15 am

^^^
Yes, the Catholic Church is growing
eyes of wisdom; and leadership can
flow from the top in Climate Change
remedies for continued survival
as well in balance of
human nature
and
the rest of Nature
TRUE as GOD as ONE;

A far cry from the days of EVIL Hurricanes;
instead a true revelation of Nature in Climate Change;

Oh, if only the First Baptist Church can follow;
but solidarity at the top of the largest Christian
church of all; can be a direction to take the
world whole perhaps one day in a
true Catholic Church of Nature;

instead of human
dominating alone..:)

But yeah; Francis
is a Saint come
before that knows
Nature as one and
whole with GOD..:)

The Catholic church, other than
a few old myths rehashed, is coming ON
Strong into the 21st Century as a wave of LOVE
for all and hopefully all the considered lesser, including
homosexuals, one now soon as well;
as Nature grows one set of eyes of
ONE GOD for ALL..:)

Anyway I have not missed a service since September of 2013,
my old Tennis Buddy the Monsignor Mike sings a message of
hope from the pulpit and will neither tolerate deacons with
songs of Evil Hurricanes or comparing Evil Hurricanes to
Homosexual ACTS and Single Mother potential of raising
loving children; science mixed with kindness of love
and courage in human nature sOul of heArt of
emotion expressed as spiRit is a REAL WAY
TO GO TO BRIGHTER WAYS
OF LIVING AND LOVING
LIFE IN COURAGE
OF UNCONDITIONAL
TOUGH LOVE NOW;
the most powerful
force of human
nature granted
by
Mother NATURE
AKA
GOD
FOR
USASALL..:)


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21 Jun 2015, 2:43 pm

Francis is not a Pope but an Anti-Pope, since he does not abides to the teaching of God and our Messiah, Jesus Christ.

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12 Aug 2015, 7:58 pm

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Francis is not a Pope but an Anti-Pope, since he does not abides to the teaching of God and our Messiah, Jesus Christ.

Yours sincerely, The_Truthteller

I wish that were true. Unfortunately, he doesn't stray from the orthodox line.



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14 Aug 2015, 3:14 am

I'm Catholic and I think the pope is satanic.


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14 Aug 2015, 4:29 am

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I'm Catholic and I think the pope is satanic.


How did you arrive at that conclusion?



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14 Aug 2015, 4:46 am

The Pope is that rarest of things, a genuinely holy man. This probably explains why many people find him hard to fathom, even threatening, because his kind don't come along very often, at least not in the West. And Christianity is essentially an Eastern religion that has never really taken root in the West. Being Orthodox, I recognise many characteristics of the Orthodox faith in the Pope.


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14 Aug 2015, 8:26 am

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nurseangela wrote:
I'm Catholic and I think the pope is satanic.


How did you arrive at that conclusion?


Everyone will have to make up their own minds about him, of course, but he is not acting like a Pope should and the Catholics that think he's so great need to wake up. Even some of the Bishops are calling him satanic and are saying he is or is in with the antichrist. Like I said, each person (who is a Catholic) will have to decide on whether they want to follow this Pope or not. This Pope is just one of many reasons that I am glad I left the Catholic Church.


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14 Aug 2015, 8:42 am

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naturalplastic wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
I'm Catholic and I think the pope is satanic.


How did you arrive at that conclusion?


Everyone will have to make up their own minds about him, of course, but he is not acting like a Pope should and the Catholics that think he's so great need to wake up. Even some of the Bishops are calling him satanic and are saying he is or is in with the antichrist. Like I said, each person (who is a Catholic) will have to decide on whether they want to follow this Pope or not. This Pope is just one of many reasons that I am glad I left the Catholic Church.


Who is to judge that he isn't acting like a Pope should? He has certainly broken the mould of most of his predecessors, questioned societal and traditional norms, but in doing so he is in very good company - after all, Christ Himself did exactly this, and was similarly accused of being a false prophet and a follower of Satan.

The only one to judge the Pope is God.

The rumours circulating among Bishops (would these be American Bishops by any chance?) sound more like malicious gossip by the sort of Protestant-style Roman Catholics who are so numerous in the West. From an Orthodox perspective, there is little difference between Protestantism and Catholicism; the former is the egg laid by the Roman goose.


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14 Aug 2015, 9:58 am

Hyperborean wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
I'm Catholic and I think the pope is satanic.


How did you arrive at that conclusion?


Everyone will have to make up their own minds about him, of course, but he is not acting like a Pope should and the Catholics that think he's so great need to wake up. Even some of the Bishops are calling him satanic and are saying he is or is in with the antichrist. Like I said, each person (who is a Catholic) will have to decide on whether they want to follow this Pope or not. This Pope is just one of many reasons that I am glad I left the Catholic Church.


Who is to judge that he isn't acting like a Pope should? He has certainly broken the mould of most of his predecessors, questioned societal and traditional norms, but in doing so he is in very good company - after all, Christ Himself did exactly this, and was similarly accused of being a false prophet and a follower of Satan.

The only one to judge the Pope is God.

The rumours circulating among Bishops (would these be American Bishops by any chance?) sound more like malicious gossip by the sort of Protestant-style Roman Catholics who are so numerous in the West. From an Orthodox perspective, there is little difference between Protestantism and Catholicism; the former is the egg laid by the Roman goose.


I'm not going to get into another religious debate about the pope - my time is more valuable. That's why I said everyone will have to come to their own conclusions of what they think about him. I have already made my decision.


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14 Aug 2015, 11:08 am

nurseangela wrote:
Hyperborean wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
I'm Catholic and I think the pope is satanic.


How did you arrive at that conclusion?


Everyone will have to make up their own minds about him, of course, but he is not acting like a Pope should and the Catholics that think he's so great need to wake up. Even some of the Bishops are calling him satanic and are saying he is or is in with the antichrist. Like I said, each person (who is a Catholic) will have to decide on whether they want to follow this Pope or not. This Pope is just one of many reasons that I am glad I left the Catholic Church.


Who is to judge that he isn't acting like a Pope should? He has certainly broken the mould of most of his predecessors, questioned societal and traditional norms, but in doing so he is in very good company - after all, Christ Himself did exactly this, and was similarly accused of being a false prophet and a follower of Satan.

The only one to judge the Pope is God.

The rumours circulating among Bishops (would these be American Bishops by any chance?) sound more like malicious gossip by the sort of Protestant-style Roman Catholics who are so numerous in the West. From an Orthodox perspective, there is little difference between Protestantism and Catholicism; the former is the egg laid by the Roman goose.


I'm not going to get into another religious debate about the pope - my time is more valuable. That's why I said everyone will have to come to their own conclusions of what they think about him. I have already made my decision.


If your time is too valuable to enter into a debate about the Pope, it might have been better not to post comments such as 'the Pope is satanic', which I'm sure you realise are likely to initiate a lively discussion on this particular forum. In fact if your time is that valuable, I'm surprised you deign to grace us with your presence at all.


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18 Aug 2015, 5:08 pm

Hyperborean wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
I'm not going to get into another religious debate about the pope - my time is more valuable. That's why I said everyone will have to come to their own conclusions of what they think about him. I have already made my decision.


If your time is too valuable to enter into a debate about the Pope, it might have been better not to post comments such as 'the Pope is satanic', which I'm sure you realise are likely to initiate a lively discussion on this particular forum. In fact if your time is that valuable, I'm surprised you deign to grace us with your presence at all.


Lol yes I agree, if you can't stand by or defend what you believe what is the point?

There have been politicians that have said and done similar things to Pope Francis, it is not that new. The differnce is the Papacy isn't necessarily expected to directly change people's lives en masse, but rather to inspire them to change their own behaviour.

As a humanist from a catholic family, I'm cautious of the fanfare that surrounds him. Sure he is nice chap as an individual, however the theological detail does matter, even if the broad brush moral message may be a bit more positive.



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18 Aug 2015, 5:11 pm

...This title gives me such a mental image ! :wink: :mrgreen: :lol: