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30 Dec 2013, 11:04 am

Depends on the man.If a gay man says it women don't mind.The lady at the liquor store always calls me sweetie,I don't care.Sugarbuns is never a good choice.

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30 Dec 2013, 11:06 am

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Well, the deity did get in a big huff and flood the whole planet once.

Not according to the geological record... Mythology is not a valid argument

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Women are indeed mysterious creatures. It is impossible to fathom what that "mystical, nice-smelling collective" really wants sometimes.

There are two issues here... 1) There is no collective... they are individuals... 2) No... it is not... ASK THEM... they will tell you.

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Interesting metaphor. So, display nothing that could be construed as chivalry to a lady, or you are confining her to a cage?

Chivalry was the knights code in feudal europe... it portrayed women as inferior... so, yes... it is just as bad... Hell, by the laws of chivalry, a lord could have sex with one of his vassals on her wedding night... Screw chivalry... why not try respect for the individual, regardless of gender...

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Well, girls can play with erector sets, build robots, be video game designers, assistant directors, and ceos. You're making a big sexist leap there. Girls play with dolls because they like to play with dolls.

See... this is where experts will disagree with you.

Please answer the following question: Are you playing devil's advocate, or do you really believe what you've been typing?

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30 Dec 2013, 11:38 am

I didn't like playing with dolls,I liked playing with cars and toy horses.Dolls were boring,it was more fun to dig in the dirt.

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30 Dec 2013, 12:13 pm

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Aha! So she does have a victim complex.

hell if I know... Didn't read the rest of her posts... I was setting aside the snide personal comments and concentrating on the truth of the matter...

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30 Dec 2013, 12:39 pm

Feralucce wrote:

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Well, the deity did get in a big huff and flood the whole planet once.

Not according to the geological record... Mythology is not a valid argument

We were talking about mythology there.

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Women are indeed mysterious creatures. It is impossible to fathom what that "mystical, nice-smelling collective" really wants sometimes.

There are two issues here... 1) There is no collective... they are individuals... 2) No... it is not... ASK THEM... they will tell you.

http://www.e-reading.co.uk/chapter.php/ ... Greek.html

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Your honored self, boss, keeps teasing me and saying I'm too fond of the women. Why shouldn't I be fond of 'em, when they're all weak creatures who don't know what they're doing and surrender on the spot if you just catch hold of their breasts…

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Interesting metaphor. So, display nothing that could be construed as chivalry to a lady, or you are confining her to a cage?

Okay. No special privileges for the ladies, then.

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See... this is where experts will disagree with you.

What "experts?" Miss Lizzy disagrees with you.

Feralucce wrote:

Please answer the following question: Are you playing devil's advocate, or do you really believe what you've been typing?

I don't pretend to adhere to any particular ideology, Satanic or otherwise.

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30 Dec 2013, 12:44 pm

Misslizard wrote:

Depends on the man.If a gay man says it women don't mind.The lady at the liquor store always calls me sweetie,I don't care.Sugarbuns is never a good choice.

But a heterosexual man, and out comes the pepper spray.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXhnzIO5N30[/youtube]

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30 Dec 2013, 2:28 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:

We were talking about mythology there.

No... you brought it into the conversation...

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Women are indeed mysterious creatures. It is impossible to fathom what that "mystical, nice-smelling collective" really wants sometimes.

There are two issues here... 1) There is no collective... they are individuals... 2) No... it is not... ASK THEM... they will tell you.

http://www.e-reading.co.uk/chapter.php/ ... Greek.html
Okay... one author... not a collective, still an individual... You were referring to a collective...

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Okay. No special privileges for the ladies, then.

No special privileges needed... just respect for all... regardless of gender.

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What "experts?" Miss Lizzy disagrees with you.

ACTUALLY, she proved my point. She didn't like playing with dolls. Which was kind of my point... toys are only gender specific because society states that they are.

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Feralucce wrote:

Please answer the following question: Are you playing devil's advocate, or do you really believe what you've been typing?

I don't pretend to adhere to any particular ideology, Satanic or otherwise.

And still not answering the question...

Since you can't be bothered answer a simple question, and only respond with more intentional evasion ... I believe that I am wasting my time responding to trollish behavior.

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30 Dec 2013, 3:00 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:

Misslizard wrote:

Depends on the man.If a gay man says it women don't mind.The lady at the liquor store always calls me sweetie,I don't care.Sugarbuns is never a good choice.

But a heterosexual man, and out comes the pepper spray.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXhnzIO5N30[/youtube]

Depends.I've heard sweetie used by men and women as a term of affection.If I'm sitting at a table,and a man says,"pass the salt,hon,"I'm not likely to even notice that,because he would say that if I was 9 or 99.It has more to do with the tone of voice that's used.

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30 Dec 2013, 6:30 pm

Misslizard wrote:

It has more to do with the tone of voice that's used.

I suppose that how you say it can make a difference

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgAoGf84-3A[/youtube]

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30 Dec 2013, 6:40 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4xpPJgX0Nk[/youtube]

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30 Dec 2013, 6:59 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4xpPJgX0Nk[/youtube]

"There's a fine line between being a strong woman and being a difficult woman."

"Difficult" woman????

Do I need to explain to anyone why this is problematic?

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30 Dec 2013, 7:44 pm

Difficult...problematic...

*Snort*

If I didn't know better, I'd have believed that word surgically chosen.

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30 Dec 2013, 10:03 pm

This thread has turned into the best Christmas present ever for AP. Take a step back, people, and look under that bridge before you go charging across it. :roll:

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31 Dec 2013, 1:36 am

jrjones9933 wrote:

This thread has turned into the best Christmas present ever for AP. Take a step back, people, and look under that bridge before you go charging across it. :roll:

You're quite right, i should have known better. i certainly will in future.

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31 Dec 2013, 3:12 am

I don't think AP is a troll. He just acts weird/silly often like a true person with AS should.

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31 Dec 2013, 6:06 am

Venger wrote:

Shau wrote:

Venger wrote:

Maybe she baited somebody into an argument today, and then tried to "play the victim". :idea:

Maybe someone automatically assumed she tried to play the victim because she's a woman.

Maybe someone observed a few of her posts on here, and came to the conclusion that she possibly has some sort of "victim complex".

Evidence, please?

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