Overall, the left is more hateful than the right

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It doesn't matter where they are now. What matters is where the people we quoted want them to be.

Right wing are against so many issues that it makes it easy for the left wing to lablel them as obstructionists/haters/racists.

1. Right wing is against enviornmental laws, because they don't care about poor minority families who live near pollution

2. Right wing is against government workers because they have contempt for the positive things government workers do.

3. Right wing is against LGBT people, because they are haters, and this is how haters think.

4. Right wing is against immigration reform because they hate Hispanics.

5. Right wing is against welfare because they don't care about poor minority families.

6. Right wing is against entitlement programs because they don't care about poor minority families.

7. Right wing is against gun restriction laws because they don't care about inner city problems facing minority families, since they live in posh upscale neighborhoods.

8. Right wing is against the right to abortion because they don't care about woman, especially minority woman.

9. Right wing is against "clean energy" because they don't have to live in poor polluted areas where minorites live.

10. Right wing is against banking regulation .. well you guess it .. racism .. cause they want to let greedy ,selfish white people destroy the American Dream for minority families.

Repeat these everyday and in few years the "truth" will sink in.

I think it is French actually.

Logical distinctions can be drawn though. Homosexuality does not have the consequences that incest can have (the increased risk of genetic disorders). Homosexuality also isn't comparable to cheating on your spouse.

To Santorum's credit, he didn't choose bestiality or paedophilia for comparison. I have so far stuck to politicians, but as you used MSNBC (my brief exposure to them has made my skin crawl, they're little better than Fox), I will use Dr Ben Carson:


You cannot compare having consensual sex with someone of the same sex to having sex with animals or children. To make that comparison is homophobia.

Supporting the Confederacy isn't hateful?


Is there a meaningful difference between telling someone to go to Hell and telling someone the fact of their birth means they are going to Hell? That the way they are is the work of an unfathomably evil being?

I don't see the relevance of your link.

1) Obama returned bust of Churchill to British embassy.
2) Obama's behaviour is because he is Kenyan.

How are those connected?

I was sticking to politicians or people actively involved in politics, rather than celebrities.

I think "camp" has more sinister connotations than "prison". In any case, I don't think Grayson's remark is comparable (analogous to Grayson's would be "people who carry out abortions should be sent to prison"). I will give you Penn's, even though I think advocating the extermination of transsexuals is worse than advocating restrictions of freedom of speech.

So, if any right winger is fair game, I present these:
http://edition.cnn.com/video/us/2010/07 ... 40x360.jpg
http://progressivepopulist.org/wp-conte ... -kenya.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_id9U8J2ri0w/T ... large.jpeg

One of the better examples that I have not yet used is Democrat Rep. Paul Kanjorski's tirade against Rick Scott. Kanjorski said the following about Rick Scott: “instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to have him and shoot him. Put him against a wall and shoot him.” Then, just a few months later he said "it is incumbent on all Americans to create an atmosphere of civility and respect in which political discourse can flow freely, without fear of violent confrontation." That is pretty much the poster child for liberal hate and hypocrisy.

Other examples:

Joy Behar called Sharron Angle a "b****" and told her to go to hell.

David Letterman said that Sarah Palin's 14 year old "daughter was knocked up by Alex Rodriguez"

Liberal radio host Montel Williams said “So, Michele, slit your wrist! Go ahead! I mean, you know, why not? I mean, if you want to — or, you know, do us all a better thing. Move that knife up about two feet. I mean, start right at the collarbone.”

Liberal Radio Host Mike Malloy called Michelle Bachmann an "evil b**** from hell"

Ed Schultz called Laura Ingraham a "right wing sl**."

And there are many, many more such examples. I almost feel that the worst of what they say is not appropriate to even repeat. It's so violent, graphic, and filled with curse words. I did some editing here on some curse words to hide them but still, my whole point kind of centers around the worst of it.

The left seems to take any opportunity to accuse the right of being hateful.

Welfare reform: HATEFUL!!
Defense spending: HATEFUL!!
States rights: HATEFUL!!
Pro-life: HATEFUL!!
Fox news: HATEFUL!!
Self reliance and self help: HATEFUL!!
Capitalism: HATEFUL!!
Christian principles: HATEFUL!!

The OP's question gives me questions of my own.

Question 1- Whose left wing do you mean? The American left or the left in general?

Question 2- if you mean the former, do you mean the Democrat-liberal lobby or the American left in general?

Question 3- Have you ever heard of the Ku Klux Klan or the American National Socialist party? Last time i checked those cats were pretty right wing. Failing that, if you come to Europe you will find all the empirical evidence you could ever need that the right is more hateful than the left.

I don't seem to recall left wingers engaging in mob hangings of african americans or advocating the extermination of global jewry.

Last edited by thomas81 on 08 Jan 2014, 7:57 pm, edited 2 times in total.

those examples are more mean spirited than hateful.

As for christian principles, its a misnomer to refer yourself as a democracy and want to force religious values unto others.

Anyway, you left out racism, homophobia and immigrant scapegoating. Those are all right wing instruments.

Your entire post was sarcastic right?

Same thing in the book I go by.


It seems that the left is all anti-religion BUT they focus on being anti-Christian the most.
Attack Christianity: So what, they deserve it.
Even criticize Islam: ISLAMOPHOBE! HATE MONGER!


Depends on how you look at it. To the left, the subjects of welfare reform, states rights, and self reliance are dog whistle terms for racism. When we really drill down into all three of those and some others, it starts to become apparent that the left is actually more racist.
I didnt even think to address homophobia and it's probably just as well with some of our more thin skinned members and their pet moderators.
I assume what is meant by immigrant scapegoating is using the illegal immigration problem as a justification for racism.

I really can't tell if you're being serious or not, but since so many of these things are actual statements I've seen made, I'm going to address them as if you are serious.

I actually disagree with many of these right wing views myself, but I hate it when people try to assign motives when they have no actual basis for doing so, save their own prejudices of course.

I will also address LoveNotHate's post because I wrote most of my reply before I realized it probably is sarcastic based on the end. As Dox47 said, these arguments, if you can call them arguments, have been seriously made by some people. So, I will post the material I have already written, which will help explain the points that LoveNotHate was making for those who may actually find themselves nodding in agreement with LoveNotHate's post!

1. Right wing is against environmental laws, because they don't care about poor minority families who live near pollution [/quote]

Because the only possible reason for opposing more government rules and regulations under the guise of protecting the environment is not caring about minorities, right?



They have contempt for the negative things that the 800,000 "non-essential" government workers do while living on the taxpayer dime.



Begging the question



Because the only possible reason one could be opposed to granting amnesty to millions of people in this country illegally is a hatred on Latinos, right? I suppose the Mexicans who support their country's strict immigration laws do so because they hate white people, right?



The government has spent trillions and trillions of dollars in anti-poverty welfare programs over the past few decades and poor people are no better off because of it. 70 percent of black children are born without fathers in their lives. That's what we have to show for those trillions of dollars. Conservatives don't want to waste taxpayer dollars to make poor people worse off. Some liberals, on the other hand, seem to want to create a cycle of dependency on government.



Do strict gun control laws do anything to reduce inner city gun violence? Do murderous gangster thugs ever follow gun laws? No, of course not. All that strict gun control laws do is leave poor minority families virtually defenseless against the "inner city problems" of gun violence. Most inner city dwellers are good people who will follow gun laws, unlike the numerous murderous thugs that infest the neighborhoods that they are forced to live in thanks to failed liberal anti-poverty programs. Democrat supported gun control hurts poor minorities now, just as it did a hundred years ago. It is gun control supporting limousine liberals like Michael Bloomberg who live in their posh neighborhoods with 24/7 armed bodyguards, not working class pro-gun Americans, who don't care about poor minority families that must live in areas riddled with gun violence.



Because that's the only possible reason for opposing legalized abortion, right? That's not even one possible reason. Minority babies are disproportionately killed by abortion. Thus, it is those who support the abortion status quo that don't care minorities, if it must be said that someone does not care about minorities.

I have no problem with welfare reform,I see people popping out kids and working on the side for cash.I don't agree with that,it's being a cheat.But people who really need help should have services.
Defense spending,we have no business butting our nose in everywhere and trying to play world police.
States rights,I'm for states rights.How is that hateful?
Pro life,yes the pro life demonstrators look hateful and intimidating.
Fox News is not hateful,it's just plain out stupid.
Self reliance,yes the wood heater feels nice and I just had deer stew.
Capitalism,not hateful, but sort of greedy and self serving.
Christian principles,you lived in the Bible Belt,you know dam well those bible thumpers are crazy and hateful.I dare you to wear a Marilyn Manson shirt to a Baptist revival.I wore a Led Zeppelin one and now I'm doomed to burn.

Moral distinctions can be drawn, not constitutional distinctions, in my opinion. If the ability to marry someone of the same sex is declared a "fundamental right" by five judges, which will probably soon happen, then why not polygamy or other "alternative" arrangements between human adults.



Without more details of the plans, it is impossible to say whether prison or camp is worse. However, I do know that, according to an undercover FBI agent, the radical leftist terrorist group that Obama's friend Bill Ayers was proudly involved with planned to kill about 25 million Americans if their plan to take over the country succeeded. Those would be the Americans that were not successfully "re-educated" in the camps. http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/po ... -americans



I purposefully confined my original criteria to politicians and prominent people, which includes members of Congress, celebrities, talk show hosts, etc. So, these people don't count. Even if they did, you would have to find something worse than the behavior of the Occupy movement to win that one. See http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2 ... rests.html

It's not that even though you are right, there are haters everywhere on both sides. It's more about right wingers genuinely believe Americans are guaranteed to carry guns under the constitution and everyone is safer if they have a gun and can protect themselves. Many of them honestly believe this. It's not about them not caring about inner city neighborhoods. Their answer is be free to carry a gun in that inner city neighborhood and shoot the bad guys before they shoot you. They think the reason so many die in the ghettos is cities like Chicago are too strict about guns and the bad people will always find guns, even if they are illegal.

I don;t think you're wrong in the slightest. For every group like the Westboro Baptists on the right, there's five or ten like GLAAD, NAMBLA, and the ACLU on the left. Most of the mass media is controlled by the left, who share the common belief that equalizing everything - no matter how inherently separate - is the only way to having permanent peace. they'd rather everyone have terrible healthcare, for example, than any one group having it better than another...because equality's their highest aim.

Ah, so now GLAAD and ACLU = Westboro and NAMBLA.