10 Mar 2014, 6:37 pm
10 Mar 2014, 6:39 pm
10 Mar 2014, 6:44 pm
Shrapnel wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
. . . conservative stereotypes are just more inherently dislikable than the liberal ones and that accounts for some of the hate gap. The other prong of my argument is that I don't think a lot of liberals give conservatives the good faith that they should, e.g. presuming that someone who opposes a particular welfare program does so because they hate the poor rather than they think it's inefficient or fosters dependency;
A lesson in irony for liberals.
The Food Stamp Program, administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever.
Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U.S. Department of the Interior, asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the Animals."
Their stated reason for the policy is because the animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves.
because equating poor people to animals is new
10 Mar 2014, 6:50 pm
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10 Mar 2014, 7:10 pm
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10 Mar 2014, 7:14 pm
thomas81 wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
starvingartist wrote:
ayn rand----ugh.
quoted by almost as many misanthropes as nietzche.
quoted by almost as many misanthropes as nietzche.
Ad hominem fallacy; just because Ayn Rand said something does not make it untrue.
Also, hated by more people that haven't read her work than any other author I can think of.
What, even Karl Marx? I somehow doubt that.
funny, marx i've actually read
only because i had to, in college, many moons ago...
10 Mar 2014, 7:39 pm
10 Mar 2014, 7:53 pm
luanqibazao wrote:
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but the quote is "plague", not "pox".
Lack of quotation marks or chapter/verse citation makes it an allusion, not a quotation. I reserve the right to modify allusions for my own purposes.
Someone send this man for re-education at gunpoint!
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Conservatives don't claim the authority to compel your behaviour at gunpoint, unless you try and murder.
Or gamble, or smoke marijuana, or buy a beer on Sunday morning (or at all, some places). Or marry someone of the same sex. It wasn't libertarians who until recently, historically speaking, made simply being homosexual a criminal act.
Those rules aren't enforced at gunpoint. Unless the USA is worse for that sort of stuff than the UK is.
Of course, the illegality of such things is a great wrong in itself (except perhaps for some forms of gambling, like those machines that exist to eat the money of gambling addicts), but exaggerating to say that behaviour is controlled at gunpoint, well, it makes you look like a shrill.
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10 Mar 2014, 10:02 pm
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10 Mar 2014, 10:32 pm
10 Mar 2014, 10:42 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
billiscool wrote:
when a conservative disagree with a liberal.
Liberal:''whoa,Bro,your like a total hater,you need
to shut up,Man''
other Liberal:''yeah,man,we Believe freedom of speech,
but you Conservative are Like total hater,we can't
have you speak at the convention,Bro''
Liberal:''whoa,Bro,your like a total hater,you need
to shut up,Man''
other Liberal:''yeah,man,we Believe freedom of speech,
but you Conservative are Like total hater,we can't
have you speak at the convention,Bro''
Here's how I put it: conservatives think liberals are wrong, liberals think conservatives are evil.
Watch, some liberal will come along and try to argue 'but Dox, conservatives are evil' and cite some anecdote or mention some particular conservative jackass and try to generalize that onto conservatives as a whole.
My money's on Kraichgauer, but Auntblabby or Arrantpariah are possibilities, as are a few newcomers to the demonize conservatives game.
Ah, I see my reputation precedes me.
But when have I ever said conservatives are evil? I just strongly dislike how homophobes and racists are more likely to be found in their number. And no, I am not saying all conservatives are racists and homophobes - in fact, most are probably not.
Let me try and explain. I'm not even going to bother to look it up but I assume the US of A has both an active communist and nazi party out there somewhere. Neither party will ever gain any worthwhile acceptance (i.e. votes) because both nazis and communists are immediately associated with oppression, persecution, and genocide because that's simply how they operate when in power. That being the case, they identify with an established party; Republican or Democrat.
To sum it up, the radical right only has conservatives and the radical left only has liberals to dock themselves to in THIS county. I'm not going to stop being a conservaive just because we have some people in white sheets or brown shirts calling themselves conservatives just to become a liberal and associated myself with communists.
Did that make any sense? I'd write a better explanation but I have other threads to deal with.
BTW, in the past three years here in PPR I've come to enjoy the label of evil conservative and all the connotations the left associates with it.
Just call it the "win their hearts and minds or burn their damn huts down" mentality of the Vietnam era and accept that we've been in the hut burning phase for a few years now.
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10 Mar 2014, 10:45 pm
10 Mar 2014, 11:00 pm
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Raptor wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
I still don't know what it is conservatives want besides not to pay taxes. Well that's what everyone wants but we all know that aint ever gonna happen so might as well get something out of what you put in, right? Like roads, schools, services of some kind.
I mean it is time for conservatives to wake up and face the reality. It's taxes. They aren't ever going to go away. They just aren't. Every tax break adds more debt that's the truth. It's not a real break. It is just part of spending.
Most conservatives have no idea what it means to reduce spending all together. It means shrinking the economy. There won't be as much money in circulation. Everyone would lose money in the deal. If the government were to do that, conservatives would suffer too then they would just find another reason to blame the government for their miserable state of mind. It's just misery. Find a hobby for God's sake!! ! Find some joy out of life. Conservatives honestly never seem to be satisfied with anything. If something goes wrong, which, inevitably, it will, they just blame someone else, like the government or liberals. They often have a piss poor understanding of the way the economy works, as in, it's theoretically impossible for everyone to become wealthy. There's just not enough money in circulation for that to happen. So they think if the government will just wave a magic wand and do what the conservative wants he will become wealthy and when whatever he does doesn't create the results he expects, he blames the government. That's all conservatives seem to want to do, pass the blame for every failure in their life onto the government.
Sometimes you just have to face reality and figure out you will not always get your way in everything. It's called growing up.
I mean it is time for conservatives to wake up and face the reality. It's taxes. They aren't ever going to go away. They just aren't. Every tax break adds more debt that's the truth. It's not a real break. It is just part of spending.
Most conservatives have no idea what it means to reduce spending all together. It means shrinking the economy. There won't be as much money in circulation. Everyone would lose money in the deal. If the government were to do that, conservatives would suffer too then they would just find another reason to blame the government for their miserable state of mind. It's just misery. Find a hobby for God's sake!! ! Find some joy out of life. Conservatives honestly never seem to be satisfied with anything. If something goes wrong, which, inevitably, it will, they just blame someone else, like the government or liberals. They often have a piss poor understanding of the way the economy works, as in, it's theoretically impossible for everyone to become wealthy. There's just not enough money in circulation for that to happen. So they think if the government will just wave a magic wand and do what the conservative wants he will become wealthy and when whatever he does doesn't create the results he expects, he blames the government. That's all conservatives seem to want to do, pass the blame for every failure in their life onto the government.
Sometimes you just have to face reality and figure out you will not always get your way in everything. It's called growing up.
It's not taxes alone but the inefficiency of how tax revenue is utilized. Conservatives and liberals have separate and distinctly different views on the role of government. That's never going to change.
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Conservatives honestly never seem to be satisfied with anything.
Yeah right.
I've never seen a more embittered group than liberals. We have a lot of sourpusses in our camp but nothing like the left.
You conservatives should quit your belly aching and be grateful you live in a place that gives you something in return, especially if you live in the city. If you live in a rural area, you don't get hardly anything from your tax dollars, true.
Oh please.
We don't get a good enough return on our invested tax money to call it an honest return. Some of the states with the highest taxes have the crappiest roads that they NEVER even patch, let alone totally re-pave. Roads are just one thing.
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In some countries. the taxes are far worse and the people get nothing, the corrupt government just vacuums the money and it gets sucked into a black hole where it disappears forever. Ever think of that?
Then maybe we'll "liberate" them next.
11 Mar 2014, 3:46 am
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