With no Bulgarians or Romanians, who can UKIP blame?

Post Reply New Topic

Mark Steel on Lord Toad.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/com ... 77303.html

Figures haven't been released yet. It is besides the point though.

And there is a massive Romanian (Roma) crimewave in London if you hadn't noticed.

Last leaflet drop this week. The count will be much fun.

Oh and:

Tá na páirtithe polaitiúla eile ag dul go dtí ifreann.

Vótáil do UKIP!

I suppose it wouldn't be, when it doesn't suit Mr Farage's narrative.

Better to pretend he never said anything, eh?

Romas only represent a margin of the Romanian community so closing the door to Eastern European nationals won't alter that.

Also the last incident i know of people trying to bait political support by rallying sentiment against Roma people was by the BNP in Belfast. Low blow, even for UKIP.



I think I'll pass.

As an American,

White there are *many* benefits .. I would advise against immigrating foreigners.

There are so many racial problems. Entire cities are abandoned and left to become ghettos as people flee.

Areas form where particular races cannot enter or risk death because of racists.

Poor people/illegal immigrants come and demand welfare, and claim that it is racist not to give them welfare.

The culture and language are objected to.

Immigration seems to setup a fragmented "war zone" type of country.

Last edited by LoveNotHate on 19 May 2014, 4:21 am, edited 1 time in total.

Immigration is a lot like food.

If you eat the right types of things and don't eat too much, you'll be good. You can't eat nothing, and UKIP does not want no immigration.

If you eat too much, and especially if you don't eat good stuff, you'll have problems.

So, the lesson is - eat less and eat better. The same with immigration - be selective and work everything out beforehand and all will be well. That means closing the door to unlimited EU immigration and returning to a selective immigration policy.

That makes the most sense. Here in France the Roma are a problem too and there is a lot of crime associated with them because they just turn up here, nowhere to live, no money, no job and just hang out with their clansmen which often leads to Roma crime gangs going around doing burglaries of countryside properties or stealing farm animals and so on. Lax immigration and the resulting problems is one of the reasons why the French National Front did so well in the local elections here. Their thinly veiled racist party is growing rapidly, whipping the population up into an anti-foreigner, anti-immigration, anti-muslim frenzy.

Tequila - are UKIP looking to tighten up/limit emigration? Will they be bringing emigrants home? Fair's fair.

If it weren't for the ugliness and real-life consequences of the rhetoric around immigration, I could enjoy the right wing media's build up of UKIP to pull the tories to the right, then panicked attempts at a knock-down when the build up gets too much.

What an interesting typo

What cities have been abandoned to foreigners?

At what point does racism become racism?

I erased something from earlier.



There are thousands of areas in America experiencing this .. however, to note a few ...

"Migration of middle-class white populations was observed during the 1950s and 1960s out of cities such as Detroit and Cleveland, although racial segregation of public schools had ended there long before the U.S. Supreme Court's decision in Brown v. Board of Education".
Today Detroit is 90% black and a notorious ghetto.

source, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_flight


"In 1985 African Americans made up 72% of the population of South Los Angeles. By 2006 the black proportion of the population had decreased to just 24%. The Latino population had risen from 21% in 1985 to 69% in 2006, as one population replaced another. From 2004-2005, Latino demand for housing caused prices to rise more than 40 percent in Watts and South Central Los Angeles"

source, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_flight



When it has something to do with race ?

Last edited by LoveNotHate on 19 May 2014, 6:00 am, edited 2 times in total.

I'd warn any country to not make the same mistakes as Europe did in regard to immigration. By the way, shouldn't we also take into account that they don't all register?

This is bulls**t. I live in a city with many immigrants from Sudan, Somalia, Eritrea, Bulgaria, Romania, Ukraine, China, Cambodia, Burundi, Cameroon, Nigeria, Vietnam, Russia, Iraq, Uganda, Kenya, Mexico, Dominica, Honduras, El Savador, Iran, Afghanistan, Korea, Kosovo, Serbia, and Bosnia. --I have no issues with these people at all.

OTOH, I see plenty of people who were born and raised here who are complete welfare leech scumbags and outright criminals. While there are some people from other countries that are f***ing losers, most of the ones that I see are people who were born right here in the USA.

Most of the racial problems that I see are from the above mentioned native born losers coming into contact with people from cultures that are differant, ridiculing these newcomers, starting fights with them, and then bieng drama ridden crybabies when they get beat down by people who came here from war zones who are simply trying to get by. They create their own problems and expect me to side with them against the foreigners? --I think not.

Denying "white flight" , "black flight" and why ghettos are created is not going to help the people who end up in ghettos.

Are you even an America, do you know the history of America ? You would be called a racist based on your earlier comments - if you denied "white flight".



You seem filled with anger, and unable to discuss this rationally.

Why do you think people from other countries are 'f***ing losers'? Most people in America are from another country.



Sure that happens, and in America people flee from "newcomers".

So, according to you, if these "newcomers" did not come, then there would be a lot less crime. And that is my original point.

Why would anyone want to live with so much racial tension?

So african-americans are 'immigrating foreigners'? As opposed to european-americans who are...what?

At what point does something have to do with race?

Firstly, I happen to live in the USA, I was born and raised here. Secondly, I am perfectly capable of discussing this rationally, as I did in my previous post. I have no issue with the newcomers at all, and in fact welcome them due to the fact that they further enrich our culture. I have no racial issues at all, but I do take issue with native born Americans who are unproductive losers who's only real goasl in life are to take taxpayer funded welfare money and turn it into cash to feed their drug and alcohol habits, and if they can't do that, steal from people who are being productive. --No issues at all with newcomers and refugees who come here from war zones.

Any 'racial tension' is caused not by the newcomers, but by people who are already from here who refuse to be productive clashing with the newcomers simply due to the fact that they are differant.

I think that your problem with my above post is that you didn't take the time to read it before you posted.

Yes, African-Americans were later brought to the United States as slaves.



European-Americans killed off and subdued the native population. This should be clear evidence of "racial tension" and an example to
be weary of bringing in immigrants.



Depends on what that something is.

The Roma are ruining my neighbourhood and the only people who benefit from them are landlords and property investors. You wouldn't believe the animosity between Muslims and eastern Europeans in my town. Tensions are rising and civil unrest is on the horizon.

I didn't know you were from there.

I will get out the popcorn.