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02 Oct 2014, 6:15 am

Rick Wiles wrote:
?Now this Ebola epidemic can become a global pandemic and that?s another name for plague. It may be the great attitude adjustment that I believe is coming." [?] ?Ebola could solve America?s problems with atheism, homosexuality, sexual promiscuity, pornography and abortion.?


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02 Oct 2014, 6:50 am

The environmentalists should be thrilled too.



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02 Oct 2014, 8:14 am

luanqibazao wrote:
Rick Wiles wrote:
?Now this Ebola epidemic can become a global pandemic and that?s another name for plague. It may be the great attitude adjustment that I believe is coming." [?] ?Ebola could solve America?s problems with atheism, homosexuality, sexual promiscuity, pornography and abortion.?


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/r ... osexuality

Yep, nothing like heavy bleeding in the gastrointestinal track followed by a painful death from multiple organ failure to help people find God and a love of embryos.



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02 Oct 2014, 8:28 am

I guess he didn't notice how many of the people who got Ebola are pretty religious. The affected Africans are pretty religious and the affected international aid workers are often religious missionary doctors.



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02 Oct 2014, 9:52 am

Ha, Ebola'd rather decrease Christian populaion a bit - look at religion statistics of Western Africa. And that's rather good.
Anyway our planet is overpopulated so maybe even from this point of view Ebola is not bad thing.



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02 Oct 2014, 10:03 am

Andreger wrote:
Ha, Ebola'd rather decrease Christian populaion a bit - look at religion statistics of Western Africa. And that's rather good.
Anyway our planet is overpopulated so maybe even from this point of view Ebola is not bad thing.


Say what? :evil: It's not rather good that any population decreases by violent, horrible death.



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02 Oct 2014, 10:16 am

Janissy wrote:
I guess he didn't notice how many of the people who got Ebola are pretty religious. The affected Africans are pretty religious and the affected international aid workers are often religious missionary doctors.


Presumably, according to him, they adhere to the wrong denomination, or have sinned in some other way. This is the sort who imagines every kind of disease to be a punishment sent directly by God.

Why anybody would love and worship such a vengeful and sadistic deity is beyond me. Fear and loathing would surely be more appropriate.



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02 Oct 2014, 10:33 am

if science can't cure Ebola, then we have to put our faith in GOD for help



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02 Oct 2014, 11:28 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
if science can't cure Ebola, then we have to put our faith in GOD for help


Those aren't the only two choices. If it can't be cured (for example, if ZMapp doesn't help as much as is currently hoped) then religion is not the automatic necessary default. There is also control. If we can't cure it, we can still do our level best to control it.



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02 Oct 2014, 2:09 pm

Humanaut wrote:
The environmentalists should be thrilled too.


is there a difference at this point between the two?



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02 Oct 2014, 2:20 pm

Humanaut wrote:
The environmentalists should be thrilled too.

Wrong. Speaking as one, the world's poorer people on the world's least-developed inhabited continent did nothing to deserve this, and Africans as a whole contribute very little to global warming. Their per-capita emissions are a tiny fraction of everyone else's.



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02 Oct 2014, 4:37 pm

ThetaIn3D wrote:
Humanaut wrote:
The environmentalists should be thrilled too.

Wrong. Speaking as one, the world's poorer people on the world's least-developed inhabited continent did nothing to deserve this, and Africans as a whole contribute very little to global warming. Their per-capita emissions are a tiny fraction of everyone else's.


I know that the more radical environmentalists view every death of a human as a good thing, since they believe that the world has too many people in general and billions need to die for "balance". They really don't care if it's Africa or America, just as long as billions of people go away. Not all enviros are like that, but the far out radical ones certainly are.



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02 Oct 2014, 4:43 pm

luanqibazao wrote:
Rick Wiles wrote:
?Now this Ebola epidemic can become a global pandemic and that?s another name for plague. It may be the great attitude adjustment that I believe is coming." [?] ?Ebola could solve America?s problems with atheism, homosexuality, sexual promiscuity, pornography and abortion.?


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/r ... osexuality


That reminds me of the Zimbabwean govt officials who said that millions of their people dying was a Good Thing because all of the dead belonged to the opposition. Saying that all those who might die from Ebola are sinners being punished by God is the same sort of dark ages thinking. And sadly, Wiles is not alone-there are plenty of psycho "Christian" preachers who say that nothing bad ever happens to the righteous, and if it does, they weren't REALLY righteous. So, No True Scotsman fallacy on the side. One doofus preacher recently had measles rip through his congregation, he'd told them that if they got vaccinated that they were sinful and didn't trust God. :roll: :roll:



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02 Oct 2014, 4:49 pm

pezar wrote:
ThetaIn3D wrote:
Humanaut wrote:
The environmentalists should be thrilled too.

Wrong. Speaking as one, the world's poorer people on the world's least-developed inhabited continent did nothing to deserve this, and Africans as a whole contribute very little to global warming. Their per-capita emissions are a tiny fraction of everyone else's.


I know that the more radical environmentalists view every death of a human as a good thing, since they believe that the world has too many people in general and billions need to die for "balance". They really don't care if it's Africa or America, just as long as billions of people go away. Not all enviros are like that, but the far out radical ones certainly are.


Well, you are right about that. There is such a thing as the Voluntary Human Extinction movement.

I'm definitely not one of them, though, and I sharply disagree that humans should become extinct. I'm in it for mutual hope for humans and for the rest of life on earth (which we are dependent upon).

If humans should die and go away completely, what we're doing now is adequate to take care of that. Life would rebound after we were gone. We could just keep doing what we're doing, and die comfortably.

My position is, even with as much struggle and suffering as humans go through (and will probably continue to go through), we still need and deserve hope and a future. We need to learn to live more sustainably, but there's no reason to say we shouldn't live. We just need to keep working on all our problems, and that makes life interesting anyways.



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02 Oct 2014, 5:27 pm

Deaths, particularly painful deaths, are always a bad thing.

I think the world would probably benefit from VHE, but it would benefit more from humans living in a genuinely sustainable way. Every extinction is intrinsically a bad thing, imo - loss of humanity would still be a loss of biodiversity.



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02 Oct 2014, 6:31 pm

I think something is wrong when your ideas logically lead to ?worse is better?.


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