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16 Mar 2015, 9:33 pm

I think it's much harder for anyone now, to survive, than it ever has been ....imo. When my parents were growing up, back then it was just starting - the 60's - the glorious "cultural revolution" that everyone raves about, but no one seemed to like. But times were more adaptive to learn, to have real friendships and relationships, as the society still had remnants of healthy, old fashioned values which allowed people to communicate effectively and relate with one another. There wasn't internet, or 5000 channels of your tv....the world wasn't so crowded then. And the biggest thing, that I see - the media wasn't so damned destructive then as it is today. I always feel and have had this feeling, that things were getting so depressing that it wouldn't be sustainable to get through school, find a mate, and have a steady career which you worked hard at - were respected, and could enjoy the fruits of your labor. Those things have all come true, just like I thought it was happening back then.

All of this rests on the foundation of good social relationships, a cohesion in society that has crumbled away. It IS so depressing I literally don't think I can stand it anymore. I wanted to, and still fantasize constantly of moving to Europe or some other place - where there is some semblance of culture remaining intact. Some fulfilling place where I can perhaps, have more success with my life in what I would see as a healthier environment. I think living in the USA has contributed greatly to my negative mental health. I'm quite sure of that 100% in fact. It's not a very healthy place to live - for anyone, anymore. It's harder if you think you have Asperger's type traits. I think, in fact, this is the hardest country to live in in this sort of regard. Emphasis is put on extremely high extroversion, social skills, entertainment and media ......stuff I never gave a damn about. I'm much more introverted, I enjoy writing, making art, reading, making music, etc etc.

And the way they funnel you into how they want you to be in schools, higher education, corporations you go into, pretty much everyhing is trying to shape you; and its all destructive to the individual. That's why we have a nation of clones and of mindless, wrecked individuals who sit in front of the tube all day long, don't communicate, are obese and overweight....our society is crumbling. I have my own opinions of why this is all taking place, now; I'll keep it to myself - but I will say I think it's by design, it's on purpose and there are basically 2 groups of people that are largely responsible, Marxists/socialists/communists and Zionists- and that's all I'll say. . It's very sinister what's happening now, and what's been taking place since the 60's. I've seen and felt the moral decay here since I was young. I want to get out and go to Europe, not much better I know. But to me Europeans have at least a little more culture intact and they have more common sense...I only hope it hasn't changed too much since I was over there. I've heard the cancerous western world is exporting itself worldwide, and that makes me sad.


Will I ever be happy again..



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17 Mar 2015, 6:50 am

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I have my own opinions of why this is all taking place, now; I'll keep it to myself - but I will say I think it's by design, it's on purpose and there are basically 2 groups of people that are largely responsible, Marxists/socialists/communists and Zionists- and that's all I'll say. . It's very sinister what's happening now, and what's been taking place since the 60's. I've seen and felt the moral decay here since I was young. I want to get out and go to Europe, not much better I know. But to me Europeans have at least a little more culture intact and they have more common sense...I only hope it hasn't changed too much since I was over there. I've heard the cancerous western world is exporting itself worldwide, and that makes me sad.

Will I ever be happy again..

Marxists, socialists and communists are very much on the fringes of American society. They don't influence things. They have some influence in some European countries.

I see no connection between America's emphasis on extroversion and people who think Israel has a right to exist, but maybe that's just me.



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17 Mar 2015, 5:38 pm

There is no direct correlation between extroversion and any religious slant; I never stated there was, I was merely discussing two separate ideas.


Marxists have DEFINITELY influenced, and continue to influence America, just look who's in the White House as president. You can research the Frankfurt School as well. These are both huge.



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17 Mar 2015, 5:42 pm

You have a crappy definition of hardest since this the easiest time we ever had to live in. I don't worry about anything like running out of food due to famine nor in fear of diseases. You can blame cultural marxism all you want but Traditionalism is just as evil.



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17 Mar 2015, 5:52 pm

And you're uninformed. IMO you need to educate yourself on the topics, before spouting nonsense and doing it in a rude way.



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17 Mar 2015, 6:02 pm

Whathappened wrote:
I think it's much harder for anyone now, to survive, than it ever has been ....imo. When my parents were growing up, back then it was just starting - the 60's - the glorious "cultural revolution" that everyone raves about, but no one seemed to like. But times were more adaptive to learn, to have real friendships and relationships, as the society still had remnants of healthy, old fashioned values which allowed people to communicate effectively and relate with one another. There wasn't internet, or 5000 channels of your tv....the world wasn't so crowded then. And the biggest thing, that I see - the media wasn't so damned destructive then as it is today. I always feel and have had this feeling, that things were getting so depressing that it wouldn't be sustainable to get through school, find a mate, and have a steady career which you worked hard at - were respected, and could enjoy the fruits of your labor. Those things have all come true, just like I thought it was happening back then.

All of this rests on the foundation of good social relationships, a cohesion in society that has crumbled away. It IS so depressing I literally don't think I can stand it anymore. I wanted to, and still fantasize constantly of moving to Europe or some other place - where there is some semblance of culture remaining intact. Some fulfilling place where I can perhaps, have more success with my life in what I would see as a healthier environment. I think living in the USA has contributed greatly to my negative mental health. I'm quite sure of that 100% in fact. It's not a very healthy place to live - for anyone, anymore. It's harder if you think you have Asperger's type traits. I think, in fact, this is the hardest country to live in in this sort of regard. Emphasis is put on extremely high extroversion, social skills, entertainment and media ......stuff I never gave a damn about. I'm much more introverted, I enjoy writing, making art, reading, making music, etc etc.

And the way they funnel you into how they want you to be in schools, higher education, corporations you go into, pretty much everyhing is trying to shape you; and its all destructive to the individual. That's why we have a nation of clones and of mindless, wrecked individuals who sit in front of the tube all day long, don't communicate, are obese and overweight....our society is crumbling. I have my own opinions of why this is all taking place, now; I'll keep it to myself - but I will say I think it's by design, it's on purpose and there are basically 2 groups of people that are largely responsible, Marxists/socialists/communists and Zionists- and that's all I'll say. . It's very sinister what's happening now, and what's been taking place since the 60's. I've seen and felt the moral decay here since I was young. I want to get out and go to Europe, not much better I know. But to me Europeans have at least a little more culture intact and they have more common sense...I only hope it hasn't changed too much since I was over there. I've heard the cancerous western world is exporting itself worldwide, and that makes me sad.


Will I ever be happy again..

People who sit around shoving drugs down their throats and always bemoaning their existence and want to blame everyone but themselves for the misery they so acutely feel. I am not calloused toward them because I guarantee my life has been just as rough if not rougher, but what's the answer, is all I ask them. How does that help your life in any way? I feel it is a legitimate, sincere inquiry. I feel this erosion, too. We have lost the rhythm we feel with cycles and this feeling of stability, everything will be alright, and optimism. Even daylight savings time dissolves this rhythm so it is on multiple levels.

I find personas like Sean Hannity thoroughly revolting because he has outright preached many times fear is always good but I feel it causes so many problems in the culture and society. It harms us, outright. Only mindless profit margins entice him to air such claims on his show. Basic respect for the individual has been replaced by outlandish claims of "freedom of speech" when it's really only abuse of the right and that's it. Everything has gone downhill drastically and this has left people feeling hopeless and thoroughly depleted. They forgot how to be optimistic and have forgotten the golden rule. These are basic ingredients for surviving life and war has been declared on them.



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17 Mar 2015, 6:07 pm

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Marxists, socialists and communists are very much on the fringes of American society. They don't influence things. They have some influence in some European countries.


Sorry, Whathappened is right about that. The USA has been gradually overrun by Marxists over the past 50 years, in every level of society - they just don't call themselves that out loud - they use terms like "Progressive" instead, just a variation on Lenin (and Obama)'s slogan "Forward!"

They have infiltrated the educational systems, the political parties, the entertainment industry and they own the News Media (don't think Fox is any different, they all get 90% of their "facts" from Reuters and the AP).

Barack Obama specifically states in his book 'Dreams from My Father' (p100-101) that he went out of his way in college to befriend the Marxist Professors, because they reflected his own point of view.

Joe McCarthy wasn't crazy after all. Nikita Krushchev told us they would take us without firing a shot and they have. If you doubt it, read Cleon Skousen's 'The Naked Communist.' (if you look hard enough, you can find it online as a free PDF file).

And in spite of what a lot of them will tell you, Socialism and Communism ARE the same thing. Karl Marx himself said so in The Communist Manifesto - Socialism is just an intermediate stage leading to full blown Communism, in which the masses all get "equal" poverty, with no opportunities for improving their situation, while the Elitists run the show.


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17 Mar 2015, 6:10 pm

Whathappened wrote:
And you're uninformed. IMO you need to educate yourself on the topics, before spouting nonsense and doing it in a rude way.

There's nothing uninformed about stating that we've got more food and less disease than we have ever had at any previous time, because that is empirically the case.

But you don't seem particularly interested in even recent history. Would it not seem like the collapse of society, to see rubbish piling up in the streets and not knowing whether the lights will come on? Yet that was Britain only several decades ago.



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17 Mar 2015, 6:13 pm

It is not marxist causing the so called "socialist state" but due to female suffrage. If one observes voting trends in the last 50 years or so one can observe female voters are more likely to support more social securities. Thus, it is not the evil marxist causing your so called down fall of society but female suffrage.



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17 Mar 2015, 6:37 pm

Marxists pushed feminism as a way to destroy the families - their stated goals of the "long march through the institutions" to breakdown America from the inside, because the working classes of the world didn't unite, didn't revolt like Marx thought. That's because no one likes communism except communists and power and control hungry ideologues themselves.

Marxism pushed feminism, I can drop some names; Horkheimer is one. There are many others. One major goal of feminism was to get women into the workforce so that the state can TAX women too, not just the men, little did they care this would take mothers away from their children and raise entire generations without the support of a proper family. How sick! To say and do these things, knowingly and purposely routing up the family, destroying children's lives and tearing apart western values ..... These people have no morality. Their stated aim as atheists, and some Zionists, is the destruction of peaceful loving Christian families, all in the order of political control.



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17 Mar 2015, 6:43 pm

Like I said, do some research because it is and WAS Marxists behind all these things. This is no secret, they've stated these aims openly.



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17 Mar 2015, 6:44 pm

Marxist did not push feminism as feminism is a result of industrialization . Once work became easier and less back breaking it became easier to become independent. Thus, feminism became a thing as the traditional family was less needed in a non- agricultural society.



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17 Mar 2015, 6:50 pm

Whathappened wrote:
Marxists pushed feminism as a way to destroy the families - their stated goals of the "long march through the institutions" to breakdown America from the inside, because the working classes of the world didn't unite, didn't revolt like Marx thought. That's because no one likes communism except communists and power and control hungry ideologues themselves.

Marxism pushed feminism, I can drop some names; Horkheimer is one. There are many others. One major goal of feminism was to get women into the workforce so that the state can TAX women too, not just the men, little did they care this would take mothers away from their children and raise entire generations without the support of a proper family. How sick! To say and do these things, knowingly and purposely routing up the family, destroying children's lives and tearing apart western values ..... These people have no morality. Their stated aim as atheists, and some Zionists, is the destruction of peaceful loving Christian families, all in the order of political control.


And where exactly are you getting your information? Also Marxists don't have a monopoly on communism or socialism, that is just one branch and yes in that specific one it called for a more or less violent revolution, I myself don't particularly agree that approach is best since it leaves to much room for a system just as corrupt to be enacted. The end goal however is a classless society...but you probably can't comprehend what that means.

As for feminism it had its time of nesssecisity, as far as gaining equal rights...but now it does just seem redundant to me and I am female, anymore it just seems to encourage us vs. them thinking which just creates further division...not sure where you get division is synonymous with socialist or communist ideas, in fact I believe its quite the contrary. One main purpose is less class division since there is a vast chasm between the wealthiest and the poorest which is one of the main contributers of poverty the fact that the fewest individuals control the most of the worlds wealth/resources...and this is the fault of communism which is opposed to that system?

It's people who support economic heirarchy who are encourage power hungry behavior and a need to be in 'control', most communists/socialists are opposed to that...I realize this can be confusing since in history some leaders who have claimed to be 'communist' to con the people into supporting them because they're 'for the common person' when in action their system more resembled facism and toltalitarianism...you can't have communism and toltalitarianism, hence why Marxs approach to communism was somewhat flawed in my opinion....as it can be seen the violent revolution way left most everyone in poverty except the wealthy government officials because they where able to use peoples desperation for some kind of stability against them...so that approach obviously did not actually lead to communism rather mass poverty. And somehow I kind of doubt Marx was a feminist.


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17 Mar 2015, 6:52 pm

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Like I said, do some research because it is and WAS Marxists behind all these things. This is no secret, they've stated these aims openly.



Do you have a link to a source where all these marxists claim to be behind all these things, and where they have stated these aims openly?


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17 Mar 2015, 6:53 pm

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There is no direct correlation between extroversion and any religious slant; I never stated there was, I was merely discussing two separate ideas.


Marxists have DEFINITELY influenced, and continue to influence America, just look who's in the White House as president. You can research the Frankfurt School as well. These are both huge.


Now Obama is a marxist, I have heard plenty of other things...but that's a new one.


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