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01 Jun 2015, 5:22 pm

People are f****d up---but many are decent, too.



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01 Jun 2015, 5:48 pm

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01 Jun 2015, 5:51 pm

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True.

But most of the racism I see towards blacks isn't really true racism at all. Most of the hatred I see is the hatred of the ghetto, thug life, gangster rap culture; not skin color.

"Racism's still alive, they just been concealin' it" - Kanye West, "We Don't Care"

What makes you so sure that racist whites only hate "thug life", but racist blacks don't merely hate big houses and snootiness?



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01 Jun 2015, 6:19 pm

I was told by my mom repeatedly that I would grow up to be a pig.



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01 Jun 2015, 6:22 pm

white_as_snow wrote:
I keep hearing from feminists how bad they have in the west.....as we all know, the feminists are as strongest in the west....

Does white males oppress their women more than other males do?


My aunt says she has had this happen to her. I take her word for it.



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01 Jun 2015, 6:29 pm

white_as_snow wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Yet another thread that is both racist and sexist. But what do I know? I'm just one more white male ... :roll:
The last time I checked its not possible to be racist against white people and sexist against males.
Unless you're being sarcastic, the phrase "It's not possible to be racist against white people and sexist against males" is a blatant lie that is itself both sexist and racist.



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01 Jun 2015, 6:35 pm

Eh feminists ain't much intelligent when they're mumbling for "equality", wich is, to their eye, more rights than men.



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01 Jun 2015, 6:41 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
What makes you so sure that racist whites only hate "thug life", but racist blacks don't merely hate big houses and snootiness?

I've met plenty of white thugs in my day who blasted to Master P and Scarface all day long while getting high and stealing cars and were racist as heck. If Azealia Banks, Kanye, and Lauren Hill are anything to go by I'm also sure there's a distinct echelon of snooty racist blacks with big houses.


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01 Jun 2015, 6:50 pm

I think some women are impressed by some white males. Think of Matt Bomer. Hell, even I'm impressed by him. Actually I'm impressed by anybody who's not mean to me.



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01 Jun 2015, 10:44 pm

white_as_snow wrote:
I keep hearing from feminists how bad they have in the west.....as we all know, the feminists are as strongest in the west....

Does white males oppress their women more than other males do?


I don't see how females of the west have it so horrid, unless they are exploited underclass immigrant women. I mean just the impression I get in my limited amount of social interactions/observation....there are lots of women who will throw a guy away just like a used tampon when they are done with him if you get what I mean. Are there guys who use women? yes...are there women who use guys, yes...except the latter does not get acknowledged by a lot of in your face feminists. And then I hear males make higher wages on average which sounds unfair, but then there are quite a few jobs where females are much more likely to be hired than males which also sounds unfair right? Also as an adolecent/teen I felt more pressure from adult women and my female peers to conform to female gender stereotypes/image than from guys.

And what do you mean white males opressing 'their' women...like other white women? I myself am northern european and native american decent so cannot really speak for entirely 'white' women but that is my experience at least...though at first glance I look more white than native.


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02 Jun 2015, 1:23 am

Women are oppressed by white men, other colors of men, and women, their classmates, friends, and themselves.

Being oppressed explains everything.

Not being oppressed confused them, being treated as an equal is the worst.

They yearn for oppression, being dictated to, just look at fashion and makeup advertising.

They know they need plastic surgery, Botox and Collagen injections, and should self starve to skeletal images.

Black men rate highest on self sense of worth, Bros are cool with being themselves.

Top tier white women are a walking inferiority complex.

An up nod of the head to a Black man, acknowledgment, is enough to be considered real.

Nothing works with women, hold a door, you are beings sexist, let her go first, you are looking at her ass, saying Good Morning to a younger woman, you are a pedophile.

All of life is everyone else's fault, and they just do it to oppress the Center of the Universe, Perfect Princess, to expose her flaws.

An all time record, 75% of males 18 to 34 have never married.

Women see this as a sign of oppression.



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02 Jun 2015, 5:49 am

Not that I'm aware (Oz, Canada and US). The wage gap stuff seems to be a myth (wage seems to be the same for the same work, no matter sex). Women have equal "rights" under law.

I suppose you can say service in some institutions are biased based on male physiology, say, foot soldiers. There's arguments both ways, there.

Some Arab countries seem to oppress women, though, and I suppose you can call them "white" (Caucasian).



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02 Jun 2015, 7:01 am

Fnord wrote:
Yet another thread that is both racist and sexist.

But what do I know? I'm just one more white male ... :roll:


[sarcasm]

Stop oppressing me!!

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02 Jun 2015, 7:25 am

SJW hypocrisy is funny.

"It's horrible to be racist or sexist ... unless it's to white males!"



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02 Jun 2015, 7:49 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
These days, though, people are discriminated against more because of low income/bad credit rating than race, per se.


This.

You don't see affluent black neighborhoods with cops running around in military gear. Likewise, you look at poor white neighborhoods and there's always a police presence just around the corner. So much of our "racial" issues aren't really racial so much as they are economic.

Also, I'd like to note that women tend to be more critical of other women than men are of women. An example is Hillary Clinton, like her or hate her, she's partially judged on her style (i.e. the pantsuit). To be honest men really don't give a damn what's she's wearing, this criticism comes almost exclusively from other women. In casual conversation I've heard a female say she specifically wouldn't vote for Hillary because of the pantsuit. Really? We're talking about a position that has the power to drop nuclear weapons, oversee the largest monolithic power structure in the world (U.S. federal government), and the qualifications for said job boil down to whether the pantsuit is an appropriate style. It's women that create that dynamic, not men.

That being said, I think you'd have a hard sell convincing people that western women are oppressed. Certainly things aren't 100% equal between the genders in western society, but categorically "oppressed" is an exaggeration of the dynamics of the situation. Also, white males being the culprit is misleading too. Usually when we talk about white males and gender discrimination we talk about wages. White men make more than females, true, but when you take out the top 1% of male wage earners the scales drastically normalize. The fact is, the top 1% is almost exclusively white and male and they're the ones driving almost any type of discrimination in the workplace, not your average guy working as a mechanic, or at walmart, or where ever. If women really want to be pissed off about the inequality they need to stop looking broadly at white males as the demographic that causes it and look inside that demographic for the real cause.



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02 Jun 2015, 6:32 pm

Women live some 6 years longer than even white men. It was proven that gap disappears when women work as long as men. They have less jail time for the same crime and are more likely to escape conviction. Have the Violence against women act which means men are automatically arrested in any confrontation with a woman, use the Yes means Yes policy on university campuses meaning a man has to prove he gained updated consent (a near impossible task) for it to not be rape, women have new coercive control laws protecting them from spousal criticism, women are ahead at all levels of education and outnumber male students some 2 to 1. Women are the selectors of mates, can get no fault divorce, legal abortion, are protected from circumcision by law, have 4 times less suicides, has almost double the cancer research funds despite similar numbers of victims (breast vs prostate) have about half as many vagrants as men, can vote without having to register with the draft, have 15x fewer workplace fatalities, have equality of opportunity by law, can laugh at the genital mutilation of a man who wanted a divorce (Sharon Osborne etc the talk) without fear of being fired, can use the "Battered wife defence" to get away with murder regardless of how true, can get away with pedophillia without cultural scrutiny, the definition of rape excludes the possibility of women raping men, can hit a man safe in the knowledge that it's taboo for a man to retaliate, has a much lower chance (4x less) of being murdered on the street than a man, can get sex without having to work very hard and can get simultaneous alimony from multiple partners and can get many men (white knights) to do basically whatever she wants them to. One woman got 80% of her husband's assets.

Yeah, women are so oppressed by white males. :roll:

You notice you never see a male feminist who's a man of colour. We're not interested in middle class white woman first world problems while our brothers fill the jails to capacity and waste away in poverty and crime.