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13 Jul 2015, 5:10 pm

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That should never happen at such a friendly, supportive web site, should it?


This isn't a friendly and supportive forum on WP. It's where people come to battle to the death... with words! :roll:

Conspiracies are not the same as conspiracy theories. Believing in one would not be the same as believing in the other.


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13 Jul 2015, 5:11 pm

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Oh, I don’t care.

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http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... population
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What does this post mean?
I was referencing this thread and mirroring AU's irrelevant quote with an irrelevant image.



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13 Jul 2015, 5:19 pm

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AspieUtah wrote:
That should never happen at such a friendly, supportive web site, should it?

This isn't a friendly and supportive forum on WP. It's where people come to battle to the death... with words! :roll:

Conspiracies are not the same as conspiracy theories. Believing in one would not be the same as believing in the other.

And yet, all conspiracies were, at one time, conspiracy theories.


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13 Jul 2015, 5:25 pm

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So i think my fellow utahn should maybe ask his doctor if Saphris is right for him. After reading his posts in this thread, out loud, and verbatim.


AspieUtah, don't you do it! BlauSamstag just has underhanded motives to get you on psych drugs so you won't pass Obama's background check for having any mental illnesses and have to give up your rights as a proud gun owner. BlauSamstag, I've got your number. :D


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13 Jul 2015, 5:25 pm

AspieUtah wrote:
RoadRatt wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
That should never happen at such a friendly, supportive web site, should it?

This isn't a friendly and supportive forum on WP. It's where people come to battle to the death... with words! :roll:

Conspiracies are not the same as conspiracy theories. Believing in one would not be the same as believing in the other.

And yet, all conspiracies were, at one time, conspiracy theories.
criminal conspiracies aren't the same thing as conspiracy theories.



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13 Jul 2015, 5:27 pm

RoadRatt wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
That should never happen at such a friendly, supportive web site, should it?


This isn't a friendly and supportive forum on WP. It's where people come to battle to the death... with words! :roll:

Conspiracies are not the same as conspiracy theories. Believing in one would not be the same as believing in the other.


Don't you have to have a conspiracy theory first before a conspiracy?


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13 Jul 2015, 5:34 pm

nurseangela wrote:
RoadRatt wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
That should never happen at such a friendly, supportive web site, should it?


This isn't a friendly and supportive forum on WP. It's where people come to battle to the death... with words! :roll:

Conspiracies are not the same as conspiracy theories. Believing in one would not be the same as believing in the other.


Don't you have to have a conspiracy theory first before a conspiracy?


No. An actual conspiracy can be uncovered that was never previously theorized about.

'Conspiracy theory' seems to be used to describe a suspected conspiracy that has no evidence to make it plausible (yes, I know that's a value judgement).



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13 Jul 2015, 5:35 pm

nurseangela wrote:
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So i think my fellow utahn should maybe ask his doctor if Saphris is right for him. After reading his posts in this thread, out loud, and verbatim.


AspieUtah, don't you do it! BlauSamstag just has underhanded motives to get you on psych drugs so you won't pass Obama's background check for having any mental illnesses and have to give up your rights as a proud gun owner. BlauSamstag, I've got your number. :D

I resist ALL unnecessary pharmaceutical drugs, especially sassafras.


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13 Jul 2015, 5:37 pm

AspieUtah wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
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So i think my fellow utahn should maybe ask his doctor if Saphris is right for him. After reading his posts in this thread, out loud, and verbatim.


AspieUtah, don't you do it! BlauSamstag just has underhanded motives to get you on psych drugs so you won't pass Obama's background check for having any mental illnesses and have to give up your rights as a proud gun owner. BlauSamstag, I've got your number. :D

I resist ALL unnecessary pharmaceutical drugs, especially sassafras.
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13 Jul 2015, 5:43 pm

Janissy wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
RoadRatt wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
That should never happen at such a friendly, supportive web site, should it?


This isn't a friendly and supportive forum on WP. It's where people come to battle to the death... with words! :roll:

Conspiracies are not the same as conspiracy theories. Believing in one would not be the same as believing in the other.


Don't you have to have a conspiracy theory first before a conspiracy?


No. An actual conspiracy can be uncovered that was never previously theorized about.

'Conspiracy theory' seems to be used to describe a suspected conspiracy that has no evidence to make it plausible (yes, I know that's a value judgement).


con·spir·a·cy the·o·ry
noun
a belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for a circumstance or event.

The person who came up with the conspiracy would first have to have the theory in their head (the belief that the theory was even possible - therefore a "conspiracy theorist") before the actual conspiracy could be formed. So we're going to have to agree to disagree I guess.


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13 Jul 2015, 5:55 pm

nurseangela wrote:
Janissy wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
RoadRatt wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
That should never happen at such a friendly, supportive web site, should it?


This isn't a friendly and supportive forum on WP. It's where people come to battle to the death... with words! :roll:

Conspiracies are not the same as conspiracy theories. Believing in one would not be the same as believing in the other.


Don't you have to have a conspiracy theory first before a conspiracy?


No. An actual conspiracy can be uncovered that was never previously theorized about.

'Conspiracy theory' seems to be used to describe a suspected conspiracy that has no evidence to make it plausible (yes, I know that's a value judgement).


con·spir·a·cy the·o·ry
noun
a belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for a circumstance or event.

The person who came up with the conspiracy would first have to have the theory in their head (the belief that the theory was even possible - therefore a "conspiracy theorist") before the actual conspiracy could be formed. So we're going to have to agree to disagree I guess.


When people plan a conspiracy, their plan is not called a conspiracy theory. That term is reserved for people not actually involved in the conspiracy, as your definition shows.



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13 Jul 2015, 6:04 pm

So, when this all turns out to be just a training exercise, what are the odds that we will be told that this was only because we were saved by the brave patriots who brought the original, nefarious plot to light?



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13 Jul 2015, 6:26 pm

Janissy wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Janissy wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
RoadRatt wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
That should never happen at such a friendly, supportive web site, should it?


This isn't a friendly and supportive forum on WP. It's where people come to battle to the death... with words! :roll:

Conspiracies are not the same as conspiracy theories. Believing in one would not be the same as believing in the other.


Don't you have to have a conspiracy theory first before a conspiracy?


No. An actual conspiracy can be uncovered that was never previously theorized about.

'Conspiracy theory' seems to be used to describe a suspected conspiracy that has no evidence to make it plausible (yes, I know that's a value judgement).


con·spir·a·cy the·o·ry
noun
a belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for a circumstance or event.

The person who came up with the conspiracy would first have to have the theory in their head (the belief that the theory was even possible - therefore a "conspiracy theorist") before the actual conspiracy could be formed. So we're going to have to agree to disagree I guess.


When people plan a conspiracy, their plan is not called a conspiracy theory. That term is reserved for people not actually involved in the conspiracy, as your definition shows.


And what makes you think that the people doing the conspiracy are actually thinking that they are doing a conspiracy and not just doing the conspiracy without thinking about it?


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13 Jul 2015, 6:29 pm

Woo Hoo! I'm a toucan now! On my way to veteran status....


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13 Jul 2015, 6:34 pm

Conspiracy is a real thing. It just means two or more people working together toward a goal.

Talk of grand conspiracy, particularly grand conspiracies that require a large number of people to keep the same secrets, or which would require some members to be super-competent, can generally be rejected out of hand.

Take for example, moon landing deniers. The sheer number of people involved in the lunar missions - tens of thousands of people - and not a single one of them spills the beans?