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15 Jul 2015, 10:24 pm

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I despise all political parties.
I agree, politics could stand to be far less of a pissing contest and more about getting things done.

I have long advocated that political parties should be prohibited in official government institutions. In other words, be a Republi-crat all you want, but park it at the curb when you go to work (federal law already prohibits partisan activities among bureaucratic staffers). I believe it is time to do the same within the elected- and appointed-official realm. This would mean no more partisan congressional "leaders" and "chairs," no more partisan "caucuses." The same would apply to White House staffers.
I wouldn't know about how effective that would be, humans are pretty tribal in nature. also, what system of voting would you replace it with?



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15 Jul 2015, 10:43 pm

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/16/us/in ... .html?_r=0


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While much of the attention on Jade Helm 15 has focused on conspiracy theories, Army planners have spent months quietly persuading private property owners and small-town leaders to welcome them to their communities. Many local officials and ranchers have granted troops access to their land and buildings, without asking for compensation.

In the West Texas town of Eldorado, the longtime mayor, John Nikolauk, said he was allowing the troops to use his ranch.

“We’re a very patriotic part of the country and we think it’s great,” said Mr. Nikolauk, a former pilot for the United States Air Force.

Mr. Nikolauk and other local officials said they considered the Internet rumors about Jade Helm 15 far-fetched.

“If the government has an idea they can come in and take over, and take guns away, the stupidest place they could come is West Texas,” said Bill Ford, a commissioner in Tom Green County whose district includes Christoval. “There’s more guns and ammo here and more people willing to use them than any combat area they’ve fought in.”



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15 Jul 2015, 11:26 pm

Fugu wrote:
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I despise all political parties.
I agree, politics could stand to be far less of a pissing contest and more about getting things done.

I have long advocated that political parties should be prohibited in official government institutions. In other words, be a Republi-crat all you want, but park it at the curb when you go to work (federal law already prohibits partisan activities among bureaucratic staffers). I believe it is time to do the same within the elected- and appointed-official realm. This would mean no more partisan congressional "leaders" and "chairs," no more partisan "caucuses." The same would apply to White House staffers.
I wouldn't know about how effective that would be, humans are pretty tribal in nature. also, what system of voting would you replace it with?


I think that Thomas Jefferson proposed a system where political candidates would present themselves to voters on issue stances alone. For example, you'd have five candidates in a debate, and each would take a stand on an issue that was presented to them. Then the next issue would come up, and they'd take a stand. IOW, there wouldn't be "Republicans" and "Democrats", just nonaligned candidates who would run on the issues.

Like much of TJ's thinking, this method was probably unrealistic. Even as early as Washington's administration, two political parties were forming, originally called Federalists (advocates of a strong central govt) and Anti-Federalists (advocates of states rights). Federalists were primarily Northerners (or "Easterners" in the lingo of the time) while Anti-Federalists were primarily Southerners. After the founding generation was gone, the split would gradually become unreconcilable, and lead to a civil war.

In the initial years after the Constitution was ratified, candidates literally bought votes with whiskey. The guy who won had either the best or most grog. Washington hated the idea, but had no choice but to go along.



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16 Jul 2015, 8:01 am

Its Thursday, July 16, 2015 and were still here...



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16 Jul 2015, 8:21 am

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Its Thursday, July 16, 2015 and were still here...


The military did say the exercise would go for eight weeks so maybe they are waiting until August to institute martial law. The plethora of youtube videos documenting it will disappear and the people who made them will be sent to reeducation camps. When they are allowed out of the camps in 2016, they will disavow everything they ever said was suspicious in the videos and declare themselves loyal citizens of the New World Order.

The New World Order will set up its government in Austin, where disinformation agents disguised as Mumford and Sons fans spent the last 5 years laying groundwork. No true Texan would be a hipster. Why didn't people see that before? We tried to warn them but they turned a blind eye to Austin coffee shops and disturbingly gentle folk music.

It turned out that Knights Transportation really was a reference to Knights Templar, the European wing of the New World Order. Why did nobody see that, nobody but one brave man in a store parking lot. They beat the braveness out of him. After the re-education camp he was assigned to be a driver for Knights "Transportation" trucks. The Europeans love irony.

China infilterated with armies hidden in plain sight in Chinatowns on both coasts. And you thought it was all delicious food and dragon dancers. Sucker!

Russia infilterated with a fembot army disguised as brides. All those men who married mail order Russian 'brides' are sorry now.



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16 Jul 2015, 8:33 am

So far so good...



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16 Jul 2015, 8:40 am

Fugu wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
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AspieUtah wrote:
I despise all political parties.
I agree, politics could stand to be far less of a pissing contest and more about getting things done.

I have long advocated that political parties should be prohibited in official government institutions. In other words, be a Republi-crat all you want, but park it at the curb when you go to work (federal law already prohibits partisan activities among bureaucratic staffers). I believe it is time to do the same within the elected- and appointed-official realm. This would mean no more partisan congressional "leaders" and "chairs," no more partisan "caucuses." The same would apply to White House staffers.
I wouldn't know about how effective that would be, humans are pretty tribal in nature. also, what system of voting would you replace it with?

Candidates for elected public offices could campaign as Republi-crats or even "the Standing at the Back Dressed Stupidly and Looking Stupid Party" candidates. But, when they assume their offices from 9 to 5, or when performing official duties at any time, they would be required to avoid acting in any partisan way. After all, this works for their underlings who have had to comply with federal law which prohibits similarly that they not act in partisan ways during work hours. If know-nothing staffers can safely wander through that minefield, it seems to me that the overlords of our republic should learn to do the same.


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16 Jul 2015, 10:21 am

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This is not hyperbole. Why this country is tentatively enjoys history as exemplified by it in your new concern with the Confederate flag, it knows absolutely nothing about the perils and dangers of martial law.

Martial law?! You betcha....

LionelMedia.com: "LIONEL PODCAST: Jade Helm is real and should scare the Hell out of you" (July 16, 2015)
http://www.lionelmedia.com/2015/07/16/l ... out-of-you

Lionel is brilliant!


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16 Jul 2015, 11:56 am

Chuck Norris in his latest and least expected role: the voice of reason. He is trying to get people to take it down a notch.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/chuck-norris-i-never-said-jade-helm-aimed-take-over-texas

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“I never ever said that that seven-state U.S. military operation intended to take over Texas,” the “Walker, Texas Ranger” star and gun-rights champion wrote Sunday for the far-right website WorldNetDaily.

“However, I did in fact mention that Jade Helm 15 is likely more than a military exercise,” added Norris, who has been a major supporter of former Arkansas governor and 2016 presidential candidate Mike Huckabee. ”I do believe, in addition to the largest domestic military training, it is also a display of power (near the southern border) intended for deterrence of enemies like ISIS and other terrorists, who the FBI have already said are present in all 50 states.”


That it has the dual purpose of training and as a show of power to ISIS is plausible.



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16 Jul 2015, 2:35 pm

Janissy wrote:
Chuck Norris in his latest and least expected role: the voice of reason. He is trying to get people to take it down a notch.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/chuck-norris-i-never-said-jade-helm-aimed-take-over-texas

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“I never ever said that that seven-state U.S. military operation intended to take over Texas,” the “Walker, Texas Ranger” star and gun-rights champion wrote Sunday for the far-right website WorldNetDaily.

“However, I did in fact mention that Jade Helm 15 is likely more than a military exercise,” added Norris, who has been a major supporter of former Arkansas governor and 2016 presidential candidate Mike Huckabee. ”I do believe, in addition to the largest domestic military training, it is also a display of power (near the southern border) intended for deterrence of enemies like ISIS and other terrorists, who the FBI have already said are present in all 50 states.”


That it has the dual purpose of training and as a show of power to ISIS is plausible.


There's a rumor going around that Da'esh (ISIS) has already set up training camps in the desert, including one a few miles from El Paso. There are those in the fed.gov who support unrestricted illegal immigration for political aims and to solve the problem of who will pay for the retirement years of the boomers. Problem is, this allowed terrorists such as Da'esh to enter too. It is a fact that items related to Islamic terror have been found in desert areas used for immigrant smuggling. One article I read said that JH15 is based on the French resistance against the Nazis. Then the question becomes, who are the Nazis and who are the French in JH? Is the army expecting that Islamists will take over large areas, creating a need for am American resistance? Is it to wargame the creation of an internal resistance in Da'esh territory in Arabia?



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20 Jul 2015, 2:55 pm

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Jade Helm conspiracy rant update.

It's been 6 days and martial law is not in effect. But the guy in this epic rant video has (as of 3 days ago) posted another rant.

His original rant that you posted 6 days ago did invoke Poe's Law for me because it really was unclear if he was a paranoid crank or a brilliant satirist.

I thought of him again recently and went back to his youtube channel. He had since uploaded a new video, bringing his playlist up to two.

He is a brilliant satirist.

The newer video makes it abundantly clear (unlike the first one, which was still in POE territory) that he is mocking conspiracy theorists.



Some delicious highlights:

:wink: He notes that his hometown of San Angelo, Texas has recently built a 3rd Walmart. He connects the dots of these 3 Walmarts on a map and discovers that doing so shows.....a triangle, an Illuminati symbol.

:wink: He deconstructs the term 'Jade Helm' to show that it means we will be under Chinese control. Jade comes from China. A helm is what you use to control a ship. So Jade Helm=China Control.

:wink: Just as the government took Christ out of Christmas, some of these exercises are happening in Christoval,Texas so as to take the Christ out of Christoval, leaving it to just be an oval.

Snopes.com is pretty sure this is satire too.

http://m.snopes.com/2015/07/16/jade-helm-proof/

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The video’s subject identified himself as “Kris Martin,” and his “Proof of Exercise” (POE) filmed commentary is almost indistinguishable from sincere ramblings about the dangers of Jade Helm uttered by folks truly terrified of its supposedly sinister agenda. However, a portion of the clip during which Martin speculates that trailers may hide “ninjas [who can] take our guns” is one giveaway that the footage is intended to be satirical. Another can be found on the YouTube channel’s About page:


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This channel is a veteran’s guide to renewing common nonsense and wisdumb in a country that has lost it’s way. Are you like me? Are you worried that you aren’t getting THE REAL history in public schools? Maybe you are worried about the erosion of morals and ethics in America? Or perhaps you are seeing that the government is coming for your guns, your Bible, and your super-sized fast food menu items. Subscribe to this channel and continue to come back as I will be uploading more and more videos to help narrow your mind so you can focus on what is really not going on in our country. WAKE UP AMERICA!


"I will be uploading more and more videos to help narrow your mind"

I think I love this guy :heart:

Proof of Exercise.....POE. I definately love this guy. :heart:



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20 Jul 2015, 5:14 pm

Speaking of Triangles & Illuminati, the famous Bermuda-Triangle comes to mind, find me something entertaining related to The Bermuda-Triangle & some possible connection with The Illumi-Not-EEEEEEE ? :D

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20 Jul 2015, 5:15 pm

For those interested in Jade Helm and have an open mind, Steve Quayle will be on Coast to Coast am Tuesday night talking about what he sees coming from this "experiment". He also has a website SteveQuayle.com.


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20 Jul 2015, 5:16 pm

Janissy wrote:
blauSamstag wrote:


Jade Helm conspiracy rant update.

It's been 6 days and martial law is not in effect. But the guy in this epic rant video has (as of 3 days ago) posted another rant.

His original rant that you posted 6 days ago did invoke Poe's Law for me because it really was unclear if he was a paranoid crank or a brilliant satirist.

I thought of him again recently and went back to his youtube channel. He had since uploaded a new video, bringing his playlist up to two.

He is a brilliant satirist.

The newer video makes it abundantly clear (unlike the first one, which was still in POE territory) that he is mocking conspiracy theorists.



Some delicious highlights:

:wink: He notes that his hometown of San Angelo, Texas has recently built a 3rd Walmart. He connects the dots of these 3 Walmarts on a map and discovers that doing so shows.....a triangle, an Illuminati symbol.

:wink: He deconstructs the term 'Jade Helm' to show that it means we will be under Chinese control. Jade comes from China. A helm is what you use to control a ship. So Jade Helm=China Control.

:wink: Just as the government took Christ out of Christmas, some of these exercises are happening in Christoval,Texas so as to take the Christ out of Christoval, leaving it to just be an oval.

Snopes.com is pretty sure this is satire too.

http://m.snopes.com/2015/07/16/jade-helm-proof/

Snopes wrote:
The video’s subject identified himself as “Kris Martin,” and his “Proof of Exercise” (POE) filmed commentary is almost indistinguishable from sincere ramblings about the dangers of Jade Helm uttered by folks truly terrified of its supposedly sinister agenda. However, a portion of the clip during which Martin speculates that trailers may hide “ninjas [who can] take our guns” is one giveaway that the footage is intended to be satirical. Another can be found on the YouTube channel’s About page:


his About youtube page wrote:
This channel is a veteran’s guide to renewing common nonsense and wisdumb in a country that has lost it’s way. Are you like me? Are you worried that you aren’t getting THE REAL history in public schools? Maybe you are worried about the erosion of morals and ethics in America? Or perhaps you are seeing that the government is coming for your guns, your Bible, and your super-sized fast food menu items. Subscribe to this channel and continue to come back as I will be uploading more and more videos to help narrow your mind so you can focus on what is really not going on in our country. WAKE UP AMERICA!


"I will be uploading more and more videos to help narrow your mind"

I think I love this guy :heart:

Proof of Exercise.....POE. I definately love this guy. :heart:


It's easy to find crazy people on youtube, dude. The joke is old now.


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