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27 Jul 2015, 1:07 am

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Still, it doesn't change the absurdity of your initial post: "Liberal creativity = art", "Conservative creativity = gun". What am I supposed to derive from that?


I took it as ...

liberal is feminite
conservative is masculine


I dare anyone to call late liberal, gun toting authors like Hunter S. Thompson and William Burroughs effeminate - and Burroughs was gay, and more of a man's man than most right wingers who need a gun to show how big their d*cks are. :twisted: .
And no, that's not an anti-gun tirade on my part - it's an anti-conservative tirade!


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27 Jul 2015, 1:20 am

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"We take what we can get" is one of the most horrifying things I can hear in relation to war. 8O
When you keep a pack of good hunting dogs you gotta toss 'em a little raw meat once in a while and dark meat will suffice as good as white. That's an oversimplification but still true in a real world sense.


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Yet, I still have no idea what point you were trying to make by "Liberal creativity = art"/"Conservative creativity = gun".
My other choice was a hybrid car representing liberal creativity and an M1A2 Abrams Tank for conservative creativity. Both more accurately represent priorities and values than creativity but what the hell.....
I'd not lose sleep over it or me.


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27 Jul 2015, 1:25 am

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Still, it doesn't change the absurdity of your initial post: "Liberal creativity = art", "Conservative creativity = gun". What am I supposed to derive from that?


I took it as ...

liberal is feminite
conservative is masculine


I dare anyone to call late liberal, gun toting authors like Hunter S. Thompson and William Burroughs effeminate - and Burroughs was gay, and more of a man's man than most right wingers who need a gun to show how big their d*cks are. :twisted: .
And no, that's not an anti-gun tirade on my part - it's an anti-conservative tirade!


Kidding, I'm kidding! Please, no one out there reading my last post have a cerebral hemorrhage! :lol:


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27 Jul 2015, 1:29 am

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My other choice was a hybrid car representing liberal creativity and an M1A2 Abrams Tank for conservative creativity. Both more accurately represent priorities and values than creativity but what the hell.....
I'd not lose sleep over it or me.


That has nothing to do with artistic creativity, though.......and making it even blurrier as to whether these analogies are intended to reflect a pro-liberal or pro-conservative stance....



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27 Jul 2015, 1:38 am

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Machine gun? That's a .50 caliber rifle, not an MG. I can buy one of those at a local gun shop if I have enough $$$ and those ARE expensive.


Obviously I'm not a gun expert. I can understand owning a pistol for self-defense or a rifle for sport, I just don't understand why anyone would want or need to own an anti-materiel rifle for personal use, but hey, it's not my business.

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And the reason the US Army (and the USMC,USAF, USN)has been shooting brown people in more recent conflicts is because there haven't been any white people to shoot at since the involvement in Bosnia. We take what we can get.


"We take what we can get" is one of the most horrifying things I can hear in relation to war. 8O

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The thread itself is absurd. Out of liberals and conservatives, why would one group be more creative than the other?


I'm not in disagreement here; I've mentioned several times throughout this thread that I don't believe something as arbitrary as political belief has any impact on the creative process and, to analogize, a beautiful painting is just as beautiful regardless of who the painter voted for.

Yet, I still have no idea what point you were trying to make by "Liberal creativity = art"/"Conservative creativity = gun".



long range target shooting. people find it fun. its alot of math and patience, so not my thing but people enjoy long range shooting. to do it you need .50 or a .418, or .338. they go out the longest. people try get longer shots on target then others.



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27 Jul 2015, 2:39 am

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They should picture a world without taxes...


The majority of the history of the United States is without an Income tax.

Not sure why you think you cant run your life unless a government worker manages it for you.

I do hear that from Socialists though, "people are dumb, and need government workers to think for them".


huh, last I checked I don't think I cannot run my life unless a government worker manages it for me...in fact I don't have any government worker managing my life for me. Being on SSI disability and EBT, I have government workers involved in putting money in my account every month and making sure I receive my EBT but I live my own life.

And what socialists do you hear that from? I'd strongly have to disagree with those ones...if you try and keep people from thinking for themselves and depending on the government to do that for them then it just starts to resemble fascism. But I feel I have expressed that I think the government should have the role of helping ensure all the citizens have access to basic resources as well as protecting personal freedom....not trading personal freedom for the former.


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27 Jul 2015, 2:43 am

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how do you get kill brown people?

The left believes that the only reason privately owned firearms and carry permits exist is to facilitate angry racist white people murdering people of color under the rationale of self defense. It gets back to the Zimmerman - Martin fiasco of 2012-13 if you were on this forum then.


I don't think that, yet I seem to have found myself on the left...


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27 Jul 2015, 10:48 am

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how do you get kill brown people?

The left believes that the only reason privately owned firearms and carry permits exist is to facilitate angry racist white people murdering people of color under the rationale of self defense. It gets back to the Zimmerman - Martin fiasco of 2012-13 if you were on this forum then.


I don't think that, yet I seem to have found myself on the left...


It's a generalization. You know, like how the left loves to generalize the right.
Examples: Racist, greedy, rich, stupid, uneducated, bully, churl, nazi, etc...

Except with me I take pride in those labels because I sense buthurt behind them as they are being emotionally hurled by a teary eyed left. :D


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27 Jul 2015, 12:27 pm




A Tear can provide the strength to leg press half a ton.. 25 times slowly.. and surely.. with arms raised in air on Parallel leg Press machine.. Dance Walk 3900 hundred miles in a Unique FREE Style of Ballet and Martial arts.. IN 23 MONTHS NOW.. that can surely kick almost anyone's butt.. IF anyone ever dareS to stop me.. in real flesh and blood life.. through violent physical force.. and of course the 400 photos OR SO of me with gorgeous early twenties DANCE PARTNER women as irrefutably documented on my blogs.. smiling ear-to-ear.. in the last 68 weeks of doing that once a week...:)

Seriously.. I am not kidding.. ONE F**KING TEAR leads to all of THAT.. I do NOT shed a tear.. and CANNOT SHED A TEAR.. for around 66 months.. with the worst pain known to mankind assessed as Type Two Trigeminal Neuralgia.. YES.. assessed as worse pain than actual literal crucifixion.. with the perspective of it lasting 66 months and not just 3 hours.. 3 days.. or whatever..

And yes.. A beloved CAT dies.. HIS NAME IS SUNNY BOY.. SON OF 'FAMOUS' BLOG KITTY.. YELLOW BOY.. and even then as i leg Press 500 LBS.. with no emotions and no tears.. i am no longer 'Superman' with NO emotions.. the Kryptonite is tRuly NO EMOTIONS FOR ALL THE HUMAN ARCHETYPES OF SO-CALLED HEROES.. LOSING AFFECTIVE EMPATHY.. IS LOSING HEROES in living color as black and white...

So the CAT dies.. i have to make the decision to put him down.. as he CAN live but he has Kitty AIDS.. which means he will infect the neighborhood cats.. if he heals his current battle injury with other neighborhood Kitties.. so yes I F**KING cry my eyes out friend.. and guess what.. I am no longer a wimp.. LIKE BEFORE THEN.. S**KING 66 MONTHS.. i am A F**KING LION IN HUMAN SKIN NOW..:)

AND THIS IS WHAT I LOOK LIKE FRIEND.. AT 230 LBS OF LEAN CAT-LIKE MUSCLE.. IN 'SPIDER MAN CLOTHES'.. AND 'SUPERMAN CAPE' OF NO FEAR... IN MARTIAL ARTS AND BALLET...

YEAH.. GUNS KILL.. TEARS CREATE THE GREATEST ARTS OF ALL AND SUPERMEN AND WOMEN TOO..

I AIN'T SCARED OF TEARS.. BRO.. OR GUNS..;)

I CREATE AND NEVER DESTROY..:)

GRINNING EAR TO EAR WITH ALL MY girl FRIENDS..:)

AND HELL YES.. I'M LIBERAL AS HELL.. CONSERVATIVES NEVER EVER ATTRACT 400 GORGEOUS YOUNG WOMEN SMILING
WITH THEM EAR-TO-EAR.. ever HEAR of ELVIS..;)

Only difference between him and me reAlly.. is he checks out at 42.. and i am still ROCKING AND ROLLING AT 55.. 'CAUSE
I CAN'T DRIVE A CONSERVATIVE 55..;)

You can Love Guns all you like.. i guess someone must to protect Freedoms in the good Old U.S.A..

But i'm gonna continue to attract women by JUST CREATING! IN ALL THE ARTFUL WAYS THAT TAKES..

It is the reason for creating in the first place.. don't ya know my friend.. it's deep down in our jeans expressed as genes..
for some of US at least.. others play with guns and once again that is OK too.. different strokes and triggers.. and all of that..;)

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27 Jul 2015, 12:43 pm

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It's a generalization. You know, like how the left loves to generalize the right.
Examples: Racist, greedy, rich, stupid, uneducated, bully, churl, nazi, etc...

Except with me I take pride in those labels because I sense buthurt behind them as they are being emotionally hurled by a teary eyed left. :D


The "left's" problems with racists and bullies and Nazis are due to the fact that they're racists and bullies and Nazis, not because they're commonly associated with right-wing stereotypes. I mean, unless you think otherwise, I have to (hope to) imagine most of the right wing is equally against racism and Nazism, as well?

I can't imagine you'd seriously "take pride" in being labeled a racist Nazi, but then again, you do seem to take vivid pride in promoting warfare over technology and the arts, so I'm really not certain where your values and priorities lie. 8O



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27 Jul 2015, 12:55 pm

I say that the Left and the Right both lack imagination, because whether it be the Left or the Right wing, the fact is either Wing is still part of the same damn Bird, and this bird is really a Dragon that deserves to be Roasted !


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27 Jul 2015, 3:20 pm

^^^



IN A Country Like the United States, Government is of no measure of significance, AS PER Limiting Human Freedoms. It's just rules and regulations that are an absolute necessity to make large populations of humans work in cooperation and survival. Humans are not evolved to interact with more than about 150 to 200 sets of social connecting eyes. Without guidelines, Large Human Populations fall into Anarchy. One need look no further than the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina
to see what happens when government Infrastructure BREAKS. ANYWAY, Human Freedom in a country that allows Freedoms like the United States is certainly NO PROBLEM FOR THOSE FOLKS who figure out how to use the System of Government as it exists to their advantage, instead of detriment. The Government in the U.S. does not impinge on MY FREEDOMS IN CREATIVITY AT ALL; AS I SIMPLY KNOW HOW TO WORK THE SYSTEM; AS IT IS DESIGNED TO WORK ALWAYS NOW.

THE ONLY FOLKS complaining are folks who are not Free; Freedom is not provided by Government, Freedom IS A WORK in progress of the Human Body and Mind in KOOL Balance. And HELL NO, IT does Not necessarily come from a Religion that can be an even SMALLER eye of needle for giant whales to pass through; as most 'Sheep' view their lives among 'Goats' WHO just get IT ALL figured out and enjoy life as is; giving 'Caesar' what is 'his', as an absolute necessity to not allow others to take it away in anarchy of social disarray. The video is cool; but the dude ain't got NO COMMON SENSE; In other words, he does not understand how the human social animal works in large groups like the U.S.A, and others labeled differently as such..:)


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28 Jul 2015, 2:56 am

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It's a generalization. You know, like how the left loves to generalize the right.
Examples: Racist, greedy, rich, stupid, uneducated, bully, churl, nazi, etc...

Except with me I take pride in those labels because I sense buthurt behind them as they are being emotionally hurled by a teary eyed left. :D


The "left's" problems with racists and bullies and Nazis are due to the fact that they're racists and bullies and Nazis, not because they're commonly associated with right-wing stereotypes. I mean, unless you think otherwise, I have to (hope to) imagine most of the right wing is equally against racism and Nazism, as well?

I can't imagine you'd seriously "take pride" in being labeled a racist Nazi, but then again, you do seem to take vivid pride in promoting warfare over technology and the arts, so I'm really not certain where your values and priorities lie. 8O


You should know that it's fairly common for liberals to think of and/or accuse conservatives of being nazis or fascists and conservatives commonly think of and/or accuse liberals of being communists. If you don't learn to take pride in labels, communist, nazi, or whatever then you allow your antagonist the pleasure of knowing they've scored one on you.
If you ask me I think we got the better deal since nazis have shaper looking uniforms. :P

BTW: War has mothered more everyday technology than you think.
Art, too.


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A Tear can provide the strength to leg press half a ton.. 25 times slowly.. and surely.. with arms raised in air on Parallel leg Press machine.. Dance Walk 3900 hundred miles in a Unique FREE Style of Ballet and Martial arts.. IN 23 MONTHS NOW.. that can surely kick almost anyone's butt.. IF anyone ever dareS to stop me.. in real flesh and blood life.. through violent physical force.. and of course the 400 photos OR SO of me with gorgeous early twenties DANCE PARTNER women as irrefutably documented on my blogs.. smiling ear-to-ear.. in the last 68 weeks of doing that once a week...:)

Seriously.. I am not kidding.. ONE F**KING TEAR leads to all of THAT.. I do NOT shed a tear.. and CANNOT SHED A TEAR.. for around 66 months.. with the worst pain known to mankind assessed as Type Two Trigeminal Neuralgia.. YES.. assessed as worse pain than actual literal crucifixion.. with the perspective of it lasting 66 months and not just 3 hours.. 3 days.. or whatever..

And yes.. A beloved CAT dies.. HIS NAME IS SUNNY BOY.. SON OF 'FAMOUS' BLOG KITTY.. YELLOW BOY.. and even then as i leg Press 500 LBS.. with no emotions and no tears.. i am no longer 'Superman' with NO emotions.. the Kryptonite is tRuly NO EMOTIONS FOR ALL THE HUMAN ARCHETYPES OF SO-CALLED HEROES.. LOSING AFFECTIVE EMPATHY.. IS LOSING HEROES in living color as black and white...

So the CAT dies.. i have to make the decision to put him down.. as he CAN live but he has Kitty AIDS.. which means he will infect the neighborhood cats.. if he heals his current battle injury with other neighborhood Kitties.. so yes I F**KING cry my eyes out friend.. and guess what.. I am no longer a wimp.. LIKE BEFORE THEN.. S**KING 66 MONTHS.. i am A F**KING LION IN HUMAN SKIN NOW..:)

AND THIS IS WHAT I LOOK LIKE FRIEND.. AT 230 LBS OF LEAN CAT-LIKE MUSCLE.. IN 'SPIDER MAN CLOTHES'.. AND 'SUPERMAN CAPE' OF NO FEAR... IN MARTIAL ARTS AND BALLET...

YEAH.. GUNS KILL.. TEARS CREATE THE GREATEST ARTS OF ALL AND SUPERMEN AND WOMEN TOO..

I AIN'T SCARED OF TEARS.. BRO.. OR GUNS..;)

I CREATE AND NEVER DESTROY..:)

GRINNING EAR TO EAR WITH ALL MY girl FRIENDS..:)

AND HELL YES.. I'M LIBERAL AS HELL.. CONSERVATIVES NEVER EVER ATTRACT 400 GORGEOUS YOUNG WOMEN SMILING
WITH THEM EAR-TO-EAR.. ever HEAR of ELVIS..;)

Only difference between him and me reAlly.. is he checks out at 42.. and i am still ROCKING AND ROLLING AT 55.. 'CAUSE
I CAN'T DRIVE A CONSERVATIVE 55..;)

You can Love Guns all you like.. i guess someone must to protect Freedoms in the good Old U.S.A..

But i'm gonna continue to attract women by JUST CREATING! IN ALL THE ARTFUL WAYS THAT TAKES..

It is the reason for creating in the first place.. don't ya know my friend.. it's deep down in our jeans expressed as genes..
for some of US at least.. others play with guns and once again that is OK too.. different strokes and triggers.. and all of that..;)

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Ah, let's see if we can figure out what our friend Hogsley has for us today.
He starts off with an classic Aerosmith music video that while well known is a bit annoying to listen to after a while. For Aerosmith I've always liked this one better but that's just me.

Then he drifts aimlessly (for all we can tell) into something about tears and doing 95,000 (or whatever) lb. leg presses for 3,000 (or whatever) reps.
Let's see..... something about cats, Elvis, lots of sporadic SHOUTING which we've all come to know as signature Hogsley.
Something about 230 pounds of cats or whatever.
Cats?......hmmmm :chin:
400 women??
Or is it 400 lb. women?
Guns, as always, seem to get some attention here and he doesn't disappoint in that regard. So what if we dont have a clue what the message, if any, is?
Then a selfie of some old man bent over in the bathroom, for whatever reason.
Not sure I even want to know what that's about. :roll:


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28 Jul 2015, 4:38 am

^^^^^
But you must admit it's creative. :wink: