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15 Feb 2016, 12:19 pm

^ There are plenty of antisemites in the ranks of the loony religious right. I can't see where Nugent is thier musical hero.


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15 Feb 2016, 2:53 pm

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^ There are plenty of antisemites in the ranks of the loony religious right. I can't see where Nugent is thier musical hero.

They listen to the Nugent Gospel Hour.With Brother Teddy doing such hits as,
Swing low,sweet M-16
When the Jack Boots come marching in
And everyone's old time favorite,
Amazing Guns.


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15 Feb 2016, 3:17 pm

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^ There are plenty of antisemites in the ranks of the loony religious right. I can't see where Nugent is thier musical hero.


While it's certainly true that there are many Antisemites among the religious right, the fact remains, because of their screwy interpretation of Revelation, which is almost universal among their ranks these days, they believe Christ is going to return to Jerusalem and rule the earth for a thousand years, and so have to keep on his good side by being at least outwardly good to the Jews.
And yes, Nugent is their musical hero. He's probably the only Rocker they listen to, and that's because of his right wing ideology. Remember, Hucksterby and he played a duet on Fox together, despite the fact that it was a very lewd song.


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15 Feb 2016, 7:18 pm

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^ There are plenty of antisemites in the ranks of the loony religious right. I can't see where Nugent is thier musical hero.


While it's certainly true that there are many Antisemites among the religious right, the fact remains, because of their screwy interpretation of Revelation, which is almost universal among their ranks these days, they believe Christ is going to return to Jerusalem and rule the earth for a thousand years, and so have to keep on his good side by being at least outwardly good to the Jews.

We're talking about a minority of them.

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And yes, Nugent is their musical hero. He's probably the only Rocker they listen to, and that's because of his right wing ideology.
I, for one, don't concern myself with the politics of any musician.

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Remember, Hucksterby and he played a duet on Fox together, despite the fact that it was a very lewd song.
If it was on Fox I'm sure you and all the other liberals watched it. Fox news and conservaive talk shows seem to be the left's best source of self-inflicted butthurt.


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15 Feb 2016, 9:35 pm

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Ted Nugent and the rest of the Anderson Archery crowd seem to enjoy this type of thing.


I saw one example of part of one of their hunts from a tree blind. The young hunter was so excited and jittery I worry a little about him climbing down like that. I hope he was only overexcited and that the "TN factor" isn't too "catchie."



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15 Feb 2016, 10:41 pm

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^ There are plenty of antisemites in the ranks of the loony religious right. I can't see where Nugent is thier musical hero.


While it's certainly true that there are many Antisemites among the religious right, the fact remains, because of their screwy interpretation of Revelation, which is almost universal among their ranks these days, they believe Christ is going to return to Jerusalem and rule the earth for a thousand years, and so have to keep on his good side by being at least outwardly good to the Jews.

We're talking about a minority of them.

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And yes, Nugent is their musical hero. He's probably the only Rocker they listen to, and that's because of his right wing ideology.
I, for one, don't concern myself with the politics of any musician.

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Remember, Hucksterby and he played a duet on Fox together, despite the fact that it was a very lewd song.
If it was on Fox I'm sure you and all the other liberals watched it. Fox news and conservaive talk shows seem to be the left's best source of self-inflicted butthurt.


Only a minority of evangelicals believe in the Rapture and Millennialism? Since when? Where did you get this misinformation? And if by chance they don't believe in that crap, then what do they believe in?


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15 Feb 2016, 11:00 pm

It's been DA JOOS all along! [/humor]


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15 Feb 2016, 11:29 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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^ There are plenty of antisemites in the ranks of the loony religious right. I can't see where Nugent is thier musical hero.


While it's certainly true that there are many Antisemites among the religious right, the fact remains, because of their screwy interpretation of Revelation, which is almost universal among their ranks these days, they believe Christ is going to return to Jerusalem and rule the earth for a thousand years, and so have to keep on his good side by being at least outwardly good to the Jews.

We're talking about a minority of them.

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And yes, Nugent is their musical hero. He's probably the only Rocker they listen to, and that's because of his right wing ideology.
I, for one, don't concern myself with the politics of any musician.

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Remember, Hucksterby and he played a duet on Fox together, despite the fact that it was a very lewd song.
If it was on Fox I'm sure you and all the other liberals watched it. Fox news and conservaive talk shows seem to be the left's best source of self-inflicted butthurt.


Only a minority of evangelicals believe in the Rapture and Millennialism? Since when? Where did you get this misinformation? And if by chance they don't believe in that crap, then what do they believe in?


The part about feeling compelled to suck up to the Jews to save thier own hides from damnation.


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15 Feb 2016, 11:49 pm

Raptor wrote:
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Raptor wrote:
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^ There are plenty of antisemites in the ranks of the loony religious right. I can't see where Nugent is thier musical hero.


While it's certainly true that there are many Antisemites among the religious right, the fact remains, because of their screwy interpretation of Revelation, which is almost universal among their ranks these days, they believe Christ is going to return to Jerusalem and rule the earth for a thousand years, and so have to keep on his good side by being at least outwardly good to the Jews.

We're talking about a minority of them.

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And yes, Nugent is their musical hero. He's probably the only Rocker they listen to, and that's because of his right wing ideology.
I, for one, don't concern myself with the politics of any musician.

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Remember, Hucksterby and he played a duet on Fox together, despite the fact that it was a very lewd song.
If it was on Fox I'm sure you and all the other liberals watched it. Fox news and conservaive talk shows seem to be the left's best source of self-inflicted butthurt.


Only a minority of evangelicals believe in the Rapture and Millennialism? Since when? Where did you get this misinformation? And if by chance they don't believe in that crap, then what do they believe in?


The part about feeling compelled to suck up to the Jews to save thier own hides from damnation.


When I hear evangelicals talk about the End Times (which is pretty much more important to them than even Christ's death and resurrection), they constantly talk about the State of Israel in Biblical prophecy. Why do you think Republican politicians rubber stamp support for Israel? It's to court and keep happy American evangelicals, who are waiting with baited breath for Christ's return to rule in Jerusalem. Televangelists and Megachurches send millions of dollars to Israel for the rebuilding of the Temple (the Israelis just laugh it off, and use the money to fix roads and such).


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16 Feb 2016, 12:08 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
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^ There are plenty of antisemites in the ranks of the loony religious right. I can't see where Nugent is thier musical hero.


While it's certainly true that there are many Antisemites among the religious right, the fact remains, because of their screwy interpretation of Revelation, which is almost universal among their ranks these days, they believe Christ is going to return to Jerusalem and rule the earth for a thousand years, and so have to keep on his good side by being at least outwardly good to the Jews.

We're talking about a minority of them.

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And yes, Nugent is their musical hero. He's probably the only Rocker they listen to, and that's because of his right wing ideology.
I, for one, don't concern myself with the politics of any musician.

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Remember, Hucksterby and he played a duet on Fox together, despite the fact that it was a very lewd song.
If it was on Fox I'm sure you and all the other liberals watched it. Fox news and conservaive talk shows seem to be the left's best source of self-inflicted butthurt.


Only a minority of evangelicals believe in the Rapture and Millennialism? Since when? Where did you get this misinformation? And if by chance they don't believe in that crap, then what do they believe in?


The part about feeling compelled to suck up to the Jews to save thier own hides from damnation.


When I hear evangelicals talk about the End Times (which is pretty much more important to them than even Christ's death and resurrection), they constantly talk about the State of Israel in Biblical prophecy. Why do you think Republican politicians rubber stamp support for Israel? It's to court and keep happy American evangelicals, who are waiting with baited breath for Christ's return to rule in Jerusalem. Televangelists and Megachurches send millions of dollars to Israel for the rebuilding of the Temple (the Israelis just laugh it off, and use the money to fix roads and such).


Yeah whatever.
My dog is Jewish so I guess I'm covered.
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16 Feb 2016, 1:03 am

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And yes, Nugent is their musical hero. He's probably the only Rocker they listen to, and that's because of his right wing ideology.
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Maybe you should concern yourself with the politics of musicians, as one despot said many eons ago, "Beware of the oppressed people that sing, since those songs may rally them to revolt."

History is rife with such examples. The best example I can think of at this late hour is the Italian composer Giuseppe Verdi, whose operas were rife with political subtexts to go against first, the French, and later the Hapsburgs (the Austrian-Hungarian empire). From his first successful staged work, Nabucco, with the chorus "Va, pensiero" through to Aida, with the Egyptians being victorious over the Ethiopians, to Rigoletto, where that S.O.B., the Duke of Mantua, sings "La Donna e mobile," meaning Italy's oppressors really don't get it, especially with all the political subplots that take place in that show. To most of the populous during the Risorgimento, Verdi stood as an acronym: Victor Emanuel, Re D'Italia (Victor Emanuel, King of Italy).

Fast forward to the 20th century to the Soviet Union, especially during Stalin's reign. Two of the USSR's most prominent composers, Sergei Prokofiev and Dimitri Shostakovich, ended up succumbing to the dictates of Socialist Realism, else they would either been sent off to the gulags or executed. Prokofiev was lucky that he got out of Russia before Stalin got extremely nasty. Shostakovich, didn't fare as well. Listen to the last movement of his Fifth Symphony. While it seems quite cheerful and breezy, there is an extremely sinister undercurrent to the last movement. Listen to, say, Leonard Bernstein and the New York Philharmonic's recording of this work, then listen to David Zinman and the Baltimore Symphony's recording, and you'll hear what I mean about that sinister undercurrent.

As for American popular music, Paul Robeson, Satchmo, Duke Ellington, Count Basie, Billie Holliday, and opera singer Marion Anderson had a helluva lot more to say and said it a lot better than a jackass like Ted Nugent.



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16 Feb 2016, 1:19 am

^^^

In addition, when I was in graduate school, one of the big issues of the day in library science, was who controls the data. In this case think of data as the raw materials, and information as how one presents that data. No less than Tom Childers, who taught at Drexel's school of Information Studies, was sounding the alarm on single ownership of both content and conduit. Unfortunately, his prediction of a less informed society, was spot-on, and it doesn't matter one bit if the information oligarchs are communist, liberal, conservative, or John Birchers. Any wonder why Johnny or Suzy don't know jack sh!t?



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16 Feb 2016, 1:20 am

in a more perfect world, everybody would just turn their backs on him, he would be "persona non grata."



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16 Feb 2016, 1:44 am

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While it's certainly true that there are many Antisemites among the religious right, the fact remains, because of their screwy interpretation of Revelation, which is almost universal among their ranks these days, they believe Christ is going to return to Jerusalem and rule the earth for a thousand years, and so have to keep on his good side by being at least outwardly good to the Jews.
And yes, Nugent is their musical hero. He's probably the only Rocker they listen to, and that's because of his right wing ideology. Remember, Hucksterby and he played a duet on Fox together, despite the fact that it was a very lewd song.


Ahh yes, noted scholar of the right wing, Kraichgauer, the man who knows more about the religious right than actual members of it...


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16 Feb 2016, 1:46 am

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In addition, when I was in graduate school, one of the big issues of the day in library science, was who controls the data. In this case think of data as the raw materials, and information as how one presents that data. No less than Tom Childers, who taught at Drexel's school of Information Studies, was sounding the alarm on single ownership of both content and conduit. Unfortunately, his prediction of a less informed society, was spot-on, and it doesn't matter one bit if the information oligarchs are communist, liberal, conservative, or John Birchers. Any wonder why Johnny or Suzy don't know jack sh!t?


Interesting, I was just reading a very convincing little post about how 90% of academia is liberal, as is 90% of the media, which leads one to really wonder about what we think we know.


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16 Feb 2016, 3:16 am

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While it's certainly true that there are many Antisemites among the religious right, the fact remains, because of their screwy interpretation of Revelation, which is almost universal among their ranks these days, they believe Christ is going to return to Jerusalem and rule the earth for a thousand years, and so have to keep on his good side by being at least outwardly good to the Jews.
And yes, Nugent is their musical hero. He's probably the only Rocker they listen to, and that's because of his right wing ideology. Remember, Hucksterby and he played a duet on Fox together, despite the fact that it was a very lewd song.


Ahh yes, noted scholar of the right wing, Kraichgauer, the man who knows more about the religious right than actual members of it...


Then disprove my presentation of their theology.
By the way, I'm not bitching about their belief system as a liberal, but as a mainline Protestant who is alarmed by their brand of theology's growing cultural influence. And no, I'm not saying they can't believe the idiocy they do; but neither do I have to like it.


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