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13 Feb 2016, 10:02 pm

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Justice Scalia is dead we are screwed and Obama gets to play dictator.


Yeah, he's a dictator, wanting to extend civil rights to gays, and fighting against voter suppression. :P


Lib rhetoric


And calling Obama a dictator isn't con rhetoric?


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13 Feb 2016, 10:06 pm

It's pathetic that even in our highest court in the land the only thing that matters is who's side you are on. It just goes to show that the letter of the law doesn't really matter.


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13 Feb 2016, 10:25 pm

I have long had the impression that to many folk, the constitution is "just a piece of paper." the right wingers here in America, use it as a weapon to screw over the classes of people they deem beneath them more than for any spiritually edifying or patriotic thing- using it mostly to benefit their own rich class at the expense of everybody else, while the left uses it to benefit everybody else but sometimes at the expense of the wealthy. it is class warfare going on and according to Buffet, the wealthy have won and are consolidating their gains.



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13 Feb 2016, 10:59 pm

Kraichgauer,

Obama is so far left he falls of the map.



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13 Feb 2016, 11:04 pm

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Obama is so far left he falls of the map.


He is no such thing. He's a centrist, but Republicans have repeated the false charge that he's far left so much that they started believing it themselves. But I'll tell you something, I sincerely wish he was as far left as you righties think. I suppose I'll have to wait for Bernie Sanders for a genuine socialist President.


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13 Feb 2016, 11:06 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Obama is so far left he falls of the map.


He is no such thing. He's a centrist, but Republicans have repeated the false charge that he's far left so much that they started believing it themselves. But I'll tell you something, I sincerely wish he was as far left as you righties think. I suppose I'll have to wait for Bernie Sanders for a genuine socialist President.



If Obama is a centrist then I am Clark Gable.Clinton was a centrist. Obama is like a big baby because its his way or the highway.



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13 Feb 2016, 11:10 pm

frenchmanflats wrote:
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Obama is so far left he falls of the map.


He is no such thing. He's a centrist, but Republicans have repeated the false charge that he's far left so much that they started believing it themselves. But I'll tell you something, I sincerely wish he was as far left as you righties think. I suppose I'll have to wait for Bernie Sanders for a genuine socialist President.



If Obama is a centrist then I am Clark Gable.Clinton was a centrist. Obama is like a big baby because its his way or the highway.



Clinton was able to pass votes and make deals with the Republicans.This guy cannot pass a single vote except by going around the Constitution through executive orders which is questionable within itself but that is another argument.



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13 Feb 2016, 11:12 pm

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Obama is so far left he falls of the map.


He is no such thing. He's a centrist, but Republicans have repeated the false charge that he's far left so much that they started believing it themselves. But I'll tell you something, I sincerely wish he was as far left as you righties think. I suppose I'll have to wait for Bernie Sanders for a genuine socialist President.



If Obama is a centrist then I am Clark Gable.Clinton was a centrist. Obama is like a big baby because its his way or the highway.


Glad to meet you, Mr. Gable.


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13 Feb 2016, 11:14 pm

frenchmanflats wrote:
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Kraichgauer,

Obama is so far left he falls of the map.


He is no such thing. He's a centrist, but Republicans have repeated the false charge that he's far left so much that they started believing it themselves. But I'll tell you something, I sincerely wish he was as far left as you righties think. I suppose I'll have to wait for Bernie Sanders for a genuine socialist President.



If Obama is a centrist then I am Clark Gable.Clinton was a centrist. Obama is like a big baby because its his way or the highway.



Clinton was able to pass votes and make deals with the Republicans.Tthis guy cannot pass a single vote except by going around the Constitution through executive orders which is questionable within itself but that is another argument.


That's because Clinton had a congress willing to work with home, whereas Obama has a hostile congress that can't stand that he was elected, then reelected, and so are trying to halt any and all progress just to be vindictive.


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13 Feb 2016, 11:15 pm

Obama is so far left he cannot even make a single attempt to pass a law.What major legislation has he passed in the last 4 years? NOTHING. Clinton and Jimmy Carter who were liberals were centrists were able to work with Republicans.Ronald Reagan had to work with Democrats and he was willing to cross the aisle. This guy cant because he is so inept and unwilling to work with Republicans. He has to resort to questionable executive orders to get is way and not through Congress.Again he is a big baby. Somebody should dress him up in a bonnet and give him a bottle and put him in a crib.



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13 Feb 2016, 11:26 pm

I had a love/hate relationship with the guy, depending on which amendment was being interpreted, but I'm definitely not happy he's dead. Guess I'm voting Republican this year.


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13 Feb 2016, 11:48 pm

Obama has announced that he will seek a replacement. If the senate tried to block this for 11 months, it will become a huge issue, it'll follow Mitch the same way Benghazi follows Hillary.


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13 Feb 2016, 11:51 pm

the senate will surely block this, the 99% be damned.



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14 Feb 2016, 12:00 am

auntblabby wrote:
the senate will surely block this, the 99% be damned.



He can do this. Mitch McConnell is the Majority leader and he decides which items go before the floor for a debate and a vote. He has the Senate rules backing him up. If he decided to bring it to the floor he can block it there. But first, the person will have to go through the Judiciary committee.



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14 Feb 2016, 12:01 am

I loved some of Scalia's rulings, hated others, but I have no doubt that he believed he was defending the Constitution according to his interpretation. Obama is sure to nominate some ideologue who, like himself, has nothing but contempt for that document. So I'm hoping the Senate blocks any such.


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14 Feb 2016, 12:48 am

I have no strong opinions about Judge Scalia. Of the 4 conservative justices, my favorite is Samuel Alito, because of his dissent in Snyder v. Phelps.


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