WAS HITLER AUTISTIC?

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Apparently there has been a nasty rumour that hitler was infected by a Jewish? prostitute. (Does not specify the gender of said ho.)

Steve K asks :

COME ON! WHO would ask such a thing? Hitler did not do ANYTHING autistic.

Um a troll perhaps?

I'm not sure why you're rolling your eyes. It was a fair question.
I suppose an obvious second question is -- have you read Mein Kampf?

Hitler might have been a sociopath, but he strikes me as being more of an egomaniac. He obviously was social enough to be able to manipulate an enormous number of people into following him. He did this through body language, tone, and carefully nuanced language and rhetoric; something an autistic Hitler would have found nearly impossible to do, if he even was motivated.
I also get the sense that Hitler gauged power as being the ability to control other people; carefully manipulating people's emotions as he attempted to rally his way into world domination. This is something I don't think an autistic person would be motivated, willing, or able to do.

I can’t see where there’s any definitive evidence at all that Hitler was autistic.
It does seem like maybe (and only maybe) Heinrich Himmler (Reichsfuhrer of the SS) may have had Asperger’s, though, if you read enough accounts and descriptions of his personality.
We'll never know for sure and I doubt it matters.

No never read mein struggle, I also never read a harletquin romance novel in easy to read words

I just came across an article in a Swedish publication, by a psychiatrist from Karolinska University Hospital, giving evidence for Hitler having Asperger's. I really, really, really hope it isn't true.

I don't think he was autistic. Hitler was very charismatic and comfortable in front of people and had no problems communicating his ideas. I also read somewhere that Aspies usually have strict, unchanging morals against lying, manipulation, and murder.

He is more on the schizophrenic side of the spectrum. Austistics and schizophrenics used to be classified as the same thing.

http://www.pediatricservices.com/prof/prof-26.htm

An Aspie can be manipulative and selfish as they want to. It's a personality thing. Most people in general aren't complete as*holes, so say only 10% of the NT population are as*holes. 10% of people with AS being as*holes would seem even rarer if you don't take the proportion into account. Less than 1% is rare enough for AS, 10% of 1% is a needle in a haystack lol.

As for hitler being autistic, I don't think so. He could've been socially awkward or w/e, but not to the extent of AS. Like people were saying in his paintings the people's posture and such in the pictures looked unnatural, so it hints to his perception. And speeches and conversation are two different things. Speeches are memorized and routine, whereas conversation is spontaneous and improvised.

No one will ever know. He's been dead for 65+ years now and his body has been destroyed.

I will say, however, that he was a delusional and bad man, Autism or not (I personally believe "not").

Absolutely Not. He was one of the most charismatic speakers of all time. Strike 1. He had to have amazing people skills to be able to convince everyone in Germany that the Jews were evil and should be killed. Strike 2. If you watch his speeches, he makes great use of body language, emotion, etc. Strike 3. You're out. Those are the exact opposite of what autistic individuals are like. How many Autistics do you know who are as charismatic as Hitler was? Well seeing as he was one of the most charismatic speakers of all time, possibly even close to Martin Luther King, you probably don't know many NT's like that either. I'm not trying to support what he was saying by any means, but he did a very effective job of communicating it.

It's pretty well nigh-impossible to retroactively diagnose someone with Asperger's. One of the only cases I think we can say with any degree of confidence is Glenn Gould (and even then, there's a half-decent chance it could be something else). I would like to comment, though, that I don't really buy a lot of the charisma arguments - being able to speak at people persuasively in a very choreographed setting isn't neccessarily contradictory to having AS.

Hypermentalists on the spectrum are very charismatic.

Absolutely, Hitler was autistic because I've met people who're autistic and can still hold a job for their autistic tendencies are not as severe as other people. I believe Hitler consist of being narcisses for it's also one of many symptoms with people who're autistic. He'd get angry at his generals if they disobeyed a single order. Hitler's name was always being brought up for losing much of it's battles.