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Life isn't fair so one should, sit down, shut the f**k up and pay your taxes?
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22 Mar 2016, 10:58 am

Shut the f**k up, sit the f**k down and pay your taxes for those on welfare. Who agrees with me that people who complain about "welfare queens" should simply accept that life isn't fair, pay their taxes and accept the socialist welfare state



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22 Mar 2016, 11:00 am

I don't know. I am one of the sheeple who needs to wake up.
Am I doing this right?


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22 Mar 2016, 11:08 am

Yeah...

Just like they say I or people in my position should quit being lazy and just get a job....also people who work and still need to be on some welfare like EBT, should just work harder.


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22 Mar 2016, 11:33 am

Those who don't believe in taxpayer funded social programs should vote for candidates who want to eliminate those programs. That is how it works in a democracy--not "sit down and shut up".



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24 Mar 2016, 6:46 pm

Thats how life works, nothing we can do about it. I pay taxes all the time if i dont ill be penalized for it, tax evasion is considered theft of governmental funding regardless of the corrupt politicians getting away with it all the time. The government dictates where our money goes and sometimes they pocket it, we have no say in the matter or power, we are nothing but their worker drones until we die, those fortunate to get paid doing nothing arent fortunate either just barely enough to get by each month. Thats life the most ya can do is try to survive as each year gets more difficult financially.


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24 Mar 2016, 6:51 pm

I don't respond well to being told to 'sit down and shut the **** up', those are fighting words.



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24 Mar 2016, 6:54 pm

You already know what "Buttercup" here thinks.


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24 Mar 2016, 10:26 pm

The system is rigged against the lower class. I say get it while you can before everyone at the top takes it all. :geek:


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24 Mar 2016, 10:42 pm

RoadRatt wrote:
The system is rigged against the lower class. I say get it while you can before everyone at the top takes it all. :geek:


Yeah. My mother is what you would call a welfare queen and a coupon hoarder.

Welfare here in Canada (At least in my province) is a joke. It basically tells you to get off your ass and get a job. They cut it now and then for no f*****g sane reason. My mother could get a job if it wasn't for the fact that all jobs now require at least an 11th grade education and she just can't go to adult school at 45 you know? Trudeau's more gentle towards uneducated Syrian rapists (I don't mean to be a bigot, there's a Syrian refugee in my class and he's pretty cool) and other immigrants than he is for his own people.

So there you have my mother depressive mother who can't afford pills and none of her 8 sisters give a f*ck about her because she's a "lazy BS" (Bien être Social, Québec's equivalent of Welfare).



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25 Mar 2016, 9:37 am

Jacoby wrote:
I don't respond well to being told to 'sit down and shut the **** up', those are fighting words.


Well Jacoby, then you accept the maxim "life is not fair" is false and you believe in fighting for fairness and things should be fair. Is this correct?

If it is not correct and one must accept the maxim "life is not fair" is true then you must accept what you consider as unfair which is some people will get welfare and money from the taxpayers for doing absolutely nothing or any other thing conservatives complain about as unfair.

In other words, if a is true then anything that can flow from a must be accepted as true or else you and other conservatives and others who believe in the maxim "life is not fair" have a contradictory and inconsistent standard in your belief system.



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25 Mar 2016, 9:44 am

Life is not fair all the time.

But I agree with making life better.



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25 Mar 2016, 9:45 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Life is not fair all the time.

But I agree with making life better.


I most definitely agree with that my friend.



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25 Mar 2016, 11:19 am

cubedemon6073 wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
I don't respond well to being told to 'sit down and shut the **** up', those are fighting words.


Well Jacoby, then you accept the maxim "life is not fair" is false and you believe in fighting for fairness and things should be fair. Is this correct?

If it is not correct and one must accept the maxim "life is not fair" is true then you must accept what you consider as unfair which is some people will get welfare and money from the taxpayers for doing absolutely nothing or any other thing conservatives complain about as unfair.

In other words, if a is true then anything that can flow from a must be accepted as true or else you and other conservatives and others who believe in the maxim "life is not fair" have a contradictory and inconsistent standard in your belief system.


Saying 'life isn't fair' isn't fair shouldn't be a mantra, what you are saying tho is just a natural byproduct of means tested benifets that cannot be avoided. Means testing I think creates a poverty trap that encourages fraud, abuse, and dependency while erecting a huge inefficient bureaucracy to manage it all. It would be better just to make this assistance available to everybody, Milton Friedman's idea of a guaranteed basic income is much better than our current welfare system. It's kind of funny since nobody is going to accuse Friedman of being a communist, it is something that is more in line with the free market than what we're currently doing.

I means testing is a big part of the reason why our minority communities have made so little progress and in a lot of regards regressed over the last 50 years because of this poverty trap. There isn't a lot of opportunity for someone to rise out of poverty and once you're on public assistance, it's pretty hard to get off since it's not worth it to work 40 hours a week + lose all your benefits and not come out any better for it.



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25 Mar 2016, 3:03 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Saying 'life isn't fair' isn't fair shouldn't be a mantra, what you are saying tho is just a natural byproduct of means tested benifets that cannot be avoided. Means testing I think creates a poverty trap that encourages fraud, abuse, and dependency while erecting a huge inefficient bureaucracy to manage it all. It would be better just to make this assistance available to everybody, Milton Friedman's idea of a guaranteed basic income is much better than our current welfare system. It's kind of funny since nobody is going to accuse Friedman of being a communist, it is something that is more in line with the free market than what we're currently doing.

I means testing is a big part of the reason why our minority communities have made so little progress and in a lot of regards regressed over the last 50 years because of this poverty trap. There isn't a lot of opportunity for someone to rise out of poverty and once you're on public assistance, it's pretty hard to get off since it's not worth it to work 40 hours a week + lose all your benefits and not come out any better for it.

I say we should have a universal basic income, but require those who aren't working put in some hours of job training, volunteering, or community service (I think we can basically "make work" for everyone) in order to receive the payment. Of course there will have to be exemptions for people to ill to do anything, but I don't think that kind of means testing is the same as the system we have now. There would also be some bureaucracy to prevent companies from abusing the existence of free-work / training programs. I'd also only have people pay back a third of what they make towards the basic income, that way there is no strict cutoff (you'd have to make three times the basic income before you'd receive none).



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25 Mar 2016, 3:46 pm

Life is not fair, so shut the f*** up and pick that f***ing cotton. And smile! Master likes happy slaves!


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25 Mar 2016, 4:38 pm

I don't have to pay taxes on municipal bond interest or my Roth IRA capital gains. Every few years I study ways of sensibly reducing my tax bill or taking advantage of "welfare for the rich."