Where does this all end?

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Very worrying times for America given today's killings and the bomb stories this week. But let's not pretend it is just one side. Remember Kathy Griffin and the decapitated head of Trump? Remember Peter Fonda tweeting that Trump's child should be out in a cage with paedophiles? www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/ ... index.html

Remember the ricin letter sent to Trump?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4850715

Ever since the election and before there have been numerous 'comedians' talking in vulgarity about Trump and nothing else. The press won't let go of the non existent 'Russian collusion'. They could and should have been holding him to account for his backtracking regarding military action, but it was the one time they called him "Presidential" after the bombing of Syria last year. That's the kind of psychopaths pushing the narratives.

Trump is the symptom of what came before. He's a brash thug from New York. A pig. But he was elected like every other President. His calls for violence against political opponents and violence towards people protesting are a disgrace. But nothing compared to the bombs dropped by every US President including Trump.

The current Democratic party is what led to Trump so just replacing Trump with the route cause will solve nothing. Both parties are corrupt the core and the US is on the verge of a civil war at this rate.

Liberals and neocons never think of the causes and what happens afterwards. So Trump is removed, then what? You have millions of angry people who will probably be pushed over the edge. The only way to beat Trump is for the Democratic party to reform completely.

What is your basis for saying that the 'Russian collusion' is nonexistent?

Back in early-to-mid 2016, even before any talk of a Russian connection hit the news at all, my boyfriend noticed that Breitbart News -- one of Trump's main early supporters -- had a tendency to regurgitate stories from Russia Today without attribution -- which was odd, given that Breitbart News often credits its sources for other stuff. Thus it appeared to us that Breitbart News was serving as a conduit for Russian propaganda and trying to downplay that fact. Other early Trump-supporting media, such as Zero Hedge, also seemed to us to have Russian ties. So to us the 'Russian collusion' story was no surprise at all. Clearly, Trump's campaign had a lot of help from de facto agents of Russian influence. The only question is whether this rose to the level of anything illegal.

It's not down to me to prove a negative. There is zero evidence.

RT has a lot of good stuff on it and is generally more accurate as it is under more scrutiny. It also has important political figures on that Western media blocks out. It's a shame it wasn't around when the lies were being spewed out about Iraq. If another website uses RT that is fine as long as the story checks out. We need to get over this absurd paranoia about Russia. The Soviet Union is long gone.

Yes, the Democrats have to reform completely. That said, that's the only agreement I have with the OP.

the dominant political meme in this country seems to be GOP=evil, Democrat=stupid. but stupid is a kind of evil, IMHO.
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You're saying a paper maché head is just as bad as mail bombings.

Stop.

I never said any such thing.

My reply was to JohnPowell. If people equate liberal emotions to conservative jihad, reason has clearly been thrown out the window.

Our Revolution’s Logic

Angelo Codevilla

In 2010, Claremont Institute Senior Fellow Angelo Codevilla reintroduced the notion of "the ruling class" back into American popular discourse. In 2017, he described contemporary American politics as a "cold civil war." Now he applies the "logic of revolution" to our current political scene.

The primary objective of any people who find themselves in the throes of a revolution is to find ways of diverting its logic from its worst conclusions.

Prior to the 2016 election I explained how America had already “stepped over the threshold of a revolution,” that it was “difficult to imagine how we might step back, and futile to speculate how it might end.” Regardless of who won the election, its sentiments’ growing “volume and intensity” would empower politicians on all sides sure to make us nostalgic for Donald Trump’s and Hilary Clinton’s moderation. Having begun, this revolution would follow its own logic.

What follows dissects that logic. It has unfolded faster than foreseen. Its sentiments’ spiraling volume and intensity have eliminated any possibility of “stepping back.”

The Democratic Party and the millions it represents having refused to accept 2016’s results; having used their positions of power in government and society to prevent the winners from exercising the powers earned by election; declaring in vehement words and violent deeds the illegitimacy, morbidity, even criminality, of persons and ideas contrary to themselves; bet that this “resistance” would so energize their constituencies, and so depress their opponents’, that subsequent elections would prove 2016 to have been an anomaly and further confirm their primacy in America. The 2018 Congressional elections are that strategy’s first major test.

https://americanmind.org/essays/our-revolutions-logic/

Sort of like how the Republicans at all levels sought to legitimize Barack Obama's presidency, with everything from obstructionism at the congressional level, to even denying that he was American born which started at the lunatic fringe level, but had spread to the mainstream GOP.

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If the left has its way with trump executed on live tv and all non left people dead or in death camps.

I don't wanna death camp or kill anybody not like myself, totally unlike a LOT of righties who don't think I have any right to exist just for being what they haughtily deem a "useless eater." NON-FIDUCIARILY-TALENTED PEOPLE MATTER!! !! !

No, I dare say we on the left want to see Trump led out of the White House in handcuffs. And rather than having the right put into concentration camps, we want to see his followers finally pick up a book that isn't The Art Of The Deal, and actually read.

or just to leave the rest of us the HELL ALONE and STOP insisting we be just like themselves.

I could even live with that. Though I would hope that the Trump fan club would eventually start book reading.