These Brexit days...
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Not that I'm starting a media campaign or anything like that..
My curiosity and overwhelming interest in one of the few public says in my lifetime, I wondered who else was willing to share their views with everyone here.
I feel the market for trade in the E.U has already begun to show signs of shreading and maybe deals can be offered in the same way but with more firmness and finality than some of the E.U countries currently. The debate on the leaflets has been aired in Parliament Monday. The disgraceful waste of taxpayers money, which should be retracted to fund the poorest in our society. Not some scam waste of time. Decisions should be made at the descretion of the voter.
Anyway, here is a quiz to take on being in or out. (To help you decide).
https://www.eureferendum.gov.uk/take-eu-quiz/
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Thread should be moved to the News or Politics section
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Well, not really. It's more or less a philosophical topical question. So.. really, comparing it to new news, when this has been public knowledge for months, won't change anything. As there will more news about it, I'm SURE, in the times to come.
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A video to gain future insight and democratic outcome to any future in the U.K.
As an American who has had NAFTA and now TTIP shoved down our collective throats, you're much better off without that. Let the SJW's gnash their teeth, and the totatlitarians scream, but all you will get is the destruction of your middle class and your land swamped with rapefugees.
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^^(I don't know which persons or class you're referring to).
People appreciate hard facts as opposed to direct scrutiny in a democracy. This is about Brits voting for a change, in foreign affairs and public spending finances, in which we’re all entitled to have our say.
At the moment, the contrast is uneven, the way forwards is more so and , lacks support.
By the way, there is always a point in voting for change in a country. (so we make sure it’s the right one, and not have other countries try and make further demands to have it their way.)
Any other debates to that of this one, is separate. It has nothing to do with presidency rights or voting in a normal general election. Which is every five years here in Great Britain.
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Found these 2 things that all British voters should see and consider:
1. A very "street" analogy.
2. People who know what they are talking about - and fought and died for.
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You can't follow an indirect blunder, no more than a corrupt political agenda, as of that of the E.U currently.
People who vote in generally want to save their businesses and wait to haggle for reforms, (but no one has witnessed any thus far). Another five countries are set to join, I think people will either welcome it or detest it.
Some of us are worried that our culture is unravelling with alarming statistics, but have been following this for years and therefore cannot see a way forwards or a way out.
We welcome trade into the country, but we want our public services and NHS and national schemes back.
We are not some puppet show for the E.U.
I am neither for or against the argument, but I do want to see positive reforms and get the country back on its feet.
...I am American , and (alas) have never even set foot in the U.K. (Or , indeed , any part of Europe) , so I am butting in ~ but I voted both " I love the E.U. " and " What about reforms " .
However , don't " What about change " and " I want reforms " say about the same thing ?
Wouldn't that split the votes in that direction ?
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However , don't " What about change " and " I want reforms " say about the same thing ?
Wouldn't that split the votes in that direction ?
Not at all. This part of the forum is all about sharing mature opinions and having divided opinions in politics.
So, you love the E.U but you want reforms for us? That seems entirely plausible.
Of course, there is also 'divided feeling.' So if you want reforms to change, you may be having doubts in the first place, but its merely to decrease the pressure when those of us who choose to vote on the day, have a clearer opinion in mind.
...Wll , I meant it more as " Don't leave " but " However , there could be some tweaks needed in Britain status , I suppose " in choosing from what was put up by you .
However , don't " What about change " and " I want reforms " say about the same thing ?
Wouldn't that split the votes in that direction ?
Not at all. This part of the forum is all about sharing mature opinions and having divided opinions in politics.
So, you love the E.U but you want reforms for us? That seems entirely plausible.
Of course, there is also 'divided feeling.' So if you want reforms to change, you may be having doubts in the first place, but its merely to decrease the pressure when those of us who choose to vote on the day, have a clearer opinion in mind.
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One of the walking wounded ~ SMASHED DOWN by life and age, now prevented from even expressing myself! SOB.
" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.
My life destroyed by Thorazine and Mellaril - and rape - and the Psychiatric/Industrial Complex. SOB:-(! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!
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''What was put up by me?!' Oh well, I don’t think I’m the only Brit on here, so it’s a bit uncanny to criticise one person who’s put up an opinion poll. Obviously, you won’t have undecided on a ballot paper.
If you’d read from my last post, its not supposed to be some militarised campaign and like you said, this poll is supposed to be for the people of Great Britain who are actually voting.
I also feel its worth mentioning to anyone who’s still undecided but wants to vote, they should think about re-registering their details with their local council. If they don’t have your current details then you won’t receive a ballot sheet, whether postal or for on the day. Mine has been posted back already.
Registering closes 12pm midnight tonight.
...I wasn't particularly criticising you .
I'm against Britain leaving the EU , I guess , from the information I have ~ If I woke up to-morrow with British voting rights I'd vote for " Stay " ` just - whatever .
If you’d read from my last post, its not supposed to be some militarised campaign and like you said, this poll is supposed to be for the people of Great Britain who are actually voting.
I also feel its worth mentioning to anyone who’s still undecided but wants to vote, they should think about re-registering their details with their local council. If they don’t have your current details then you won’t receive a ballot sheet, whether postal or for on the day. Mine has been posted back already.
Registering closes 12pm midnight tonight.
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Renal kidney failure, congestive heart failure, COPD. Can't really get up from a floor position unhelped anymore:-(.
One of the walking wounded ~ SMASHED DOWN by life and age, now prevented from even expressing myself! SOB.
" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.
My life destroyed by Thorazine and Mellaril - and rape - and the Psychiatric/Industrial Complex. SOB:-(! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!
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What people need to get to grips with outside the E.U and the states, is that it doesn't matter if you've never set foot inside another country, you are part of that establishment, however much you feel like you don't belong to it.
I'm part of a sovereign state which defines England and with much distaste, member of this flailing E.U organisation, which only helps the government to patronise its own people and brainwash them into believing we're safe, when its a fact that we are not. We need to go our separate ways and claim back the industries and services which have been lost to offshore companies and businesses.
I'm not going to encroach on other countries I know little about, what party electorate to vote for or what PM.
All I would say is if you're a first class businessman or 'whoever' and you are coming here to put down apprentice roots for however long, then you can at least bring back something from the culture. Like i.e, fish and chips or a souvenir including language skills but I wouldn't keep it up if I never lived there.
People want to see more change in the country, I personally have doubts about how outside influences are going to achieve that.(being on the inside doesn't always guarantee the right success either).
I've made the right choice for myself and others who vote will have the same options.
I'm not here during referendum week, so I opted for postal.
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