My Argument with big Far Right Youtuber

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I consider it to be racist/sexist with no substance because its drivel...not sure how recognizing it as such implies being easily offended. I actually find it a little more sad than offensive, i'd think it must be painful to have that much rage and hate flowing through them all the time.

Also I'd imagine while things do get heated here on this site, even most right wingers here would agree that, that kind of drivel doesn't have much substance and isn't useful dialogue.

Pardon?

Define which policies, principles, philosophies, etc I support which qualify me as "very right wing".

As for your argument with Naked Ape, I'm disinclined to comment either way without being privy to the actual conversation between you. That is to say, I have no trouble believing he's a grade A pillock when criticised, but I'm not in the habit of listening and believing either.

Naked Ape, Hunter Avallone, and Paul Joseph Watson are fond of using the word autism as an insult. That should tell you how messed up they are.

Interesting...so you don't say things are racist because they're racist, you say they're racist if they're "drivel". I'm always accusing you people of calling everything racist not because it is but because you want to shut down dialog. At least I finally got a confession. Something is racist in your mind if it's "drivel".



It's not about your political affiliation, it's about understanding plain English. You don't need to be political to do that. If you couldn't extract any meaning from the text then maybe you should spend more time understanding English and less time calling things you don't understand "racist".

Paul Joseph Watson spent all his time making videos about 9/11 being an inside job. Now there's more views in right wing views he's done a 180 and talks about that instead. His boss also admitted in his custody / divorce action that his InfoWars stuff is just a performance act.

The problem with YouTube is that people do make controversial videos just for the money, the trick is to spot who is doing it.

BTW it's not even that bad an insult, far worse is said by left wing zealots on here. The fact the the abuse is protected and sanctioned doesn't make it any less bad.

black behavior causes poverty? family breakdown is caused by women? a racist and a sexist comment, that is why it is sexist and racist. It's drivel because its ranting, raving rhetoric.

Also by no substance I mean nothing of value was said, not that I don't understand the meaning. If you think that youtuber is a reasonable example of what a right winger should strive for than you can certainly go follow his channel, I don't really care.

Beginning to think you are making controversial posts for attention, so carry on by all means...but for me there is nothing else to see here.

Would you admit that there is a culture in black communities where underachieving is praised and success via legitimate means chastised?

It tells me you're offended by their ignorance, not that they're "messed up", whatever that's supposed to mean. An optimist might point out that the currently trending "autism meme" is at least raising awareness of the existence of autism, if not understanding of it.

Incidentally, in most instances that I've witnessed "autism" (or one of its variants) used as an insult, it would have been more appropriate to suggest the target might suffer from "narcissism" or "BPD".



I'm not actually sure what's meant by "black behaviour". Assuming it refers to a specific sub-culture or cultural behaviour, it's less "racist" and more "vague, simplistic and of limited usefulness".

Suggesting family breakdown is caused primarily by women isn't necessarily sexist, but it's not the kind of statement one should make without backing it up with some data (or at least some persuasive rhetoric) - especially if one perceives there to be an 'extreme left bias' on the board.



There's insufficient supporting data to know whether or not what was said was "of value". In other words, I agree that it was insubstantial, but not with your reasoning as to why.

Who cares? You encountered a D-bag, no more or less representative of a particular viewpoint than you can find on either side of the debate - there are jackasses everywhere. Instead of just walking away, and ignoring the troll, you came back here to your echo chamber to commiserate with cronies and name-call the name-caller.

In spite of repeating your opponent's antagonistic language verbatim, you never once gave a single consideration to whether or not he made any legitimate points, because you are, and always were, convinced that your viewpoint couldn't possibly be anything but 100% correct. When you couldn't win an argument with someone who disagrees, you come running back to a place where you can bask in the reassurance of people you already know hold the same viewpoint, no matter whether it's right or wrong, because you don't want to learn anything, you don't want to confront uncomfortable truth, you only want to be right.

And that can only be guaranteed by revisiting the same cherry-picked factoids, parroting the same tired talking points, hiding behind the same denials, and ridiculing the opposition with the same smug, patronizations and the same condescending stereotypes you've come to depend on.

"He played an idiot over again to such a level as to make Sean Hannity cringe." Not the sort of remark one should expect from someone only interested in "rational discourse," but typical of Leftist condescension and ridicule. As Chichikov pointed out, hypocrisy.

Do you believe such behaviour is limited to black communities, or are you saying it's more endemic within such?

At this point I suggest that you present your entire argument as best you can rather than teasing it out. It might make for a more productive discussion.

So, racist and sexist rants need to be examined to the smallest detail before they're declared racist/sexist?

Lovely.....

No, I mean left-wingers think this forum is biased toward the right, and right-wingers think this forum is biased towards the left.

Experience is speaking, here.

Sadly, yes they do in these times. Too many people too willing to label anything they don't agree with as sexist or racist or some other - ist.

So a declaration that a "rant" is racist and sexist is all that is required to render it so? What a convenient and powerful tool! I'm utterly shocked that I don't see it being used multiple times per day by people trying to push their agenda!

By (the actual) definition, racism requires either a belief in the superiority of one's own race or a belief that there are specific traits attached to either race or ethnicity. When no such belief is expressed, you can bet your ass I'll seek clarification before exercising my own judgement.

Sexism implies stereotyping, prejudice or discrimination on the basis of sex. That wasn't necessarily true of the quoted statement, and I'm interested in seeing the "working out".

If that doesn't appeal to you, that's your prerogative. Mine is to do my own thinking and to make my own decisions.

You run up to me unprovoked and slap me in the face. I slap you back. If you think the two actions are equivalent, there is something very wrong.

Isn't it ridiculous to think you can just came at someone with verbal abuse and expect a civil response?

And you stop there because you want people to just assume it's all because black people just suck. It couldn't possibly be that something else lead to that culture in the first place, could it? Also, please note that there is a big difference between pointing out a cause for a maladaptive culture and making a moral excuse for it.