I predict Trump will be re-elected in 2020 !
06 Dec 2017, 8:13 pm
elbowgrease wrote:
I really hope he doesn't get reelected.
I honestly can't think of anyone to compare him to, or enough derogatory words to describe him.
I have had a lot of interesting ideas about creative protest art this last year, though. So I guess he's been good for that.
I honestly can't think of anyone to compare him to, or enough derogatory words to describe him.
I have had a lot of interesting ideas about creative protest art this last year, though. So I guess he's been good for that.
That's because you simply don't know any better.
06 Dec 2017, 8:16 pm
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Great presidents are unifiers not divisive, with leadership ability and personal stability. As Trump has none of these, re-election would be a disaster for the USA, it will be marginalised by the international community and its traditional allies will be unlikely to want to continue alliances that have lasted decades for the benefit of the USA in particular in terms of intelligence. Trump is widely disliked by America's closest allies as no other president has ever been. Doesn't that tell you something? His continuous disrepect for facts (other than his manufactured facts which are mostly lies) has degraded respect for America, and contrary to what Trump has preached to his believers, the USA cannot go it alone as an isolationist state. It needs trading partners, it needs goodwill from its allies, and Trump has made the USA a laughing stock, which is a very sad state of affairs. His irrationality and mental instability is incompatible with power and he doesn't seem to realise that he can't make up the rules as he goes along to suit himself. Your prediction may come true, but if it does, then it may please those apocalypist-wishing Christians who want to see the four horses and to Hell with people who don't share their religious views. It is all tragic and sad. I feel deeply for Americans as they are contending with a terrible set of circumstances, and it is unlikely they will not learn from the abundant evidence of the disaster that Trump is for the USA.
Actually, Trump is one of the best things that has happened to America. He is the Trumpet of truth , and he is getting things done. ( or at least, in earnest) But the Democ-rats keep putting up road blocks in front of him ,stalling progress. The economy is really picking up, though, and he is doing a great job with foreign affairs. If only he would get the wall built sooner. Also, you are wrong, because a lot of people were upset about Ronald Reagan at first, because the negative naysayers are the ones who divide. But , later on Reagan became a great unifier. Barack Obama certainly was not. He wasn't fit to judge a pie eating contest at the county fair, much less run our country. I hope he goes away gracefully.
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06 Dec 2017, 9:11 pm
rvacountrysinger wrote:
B19 wrote:
Great presidents are unifiers not divisive, with leadership ability and personal stability. As Trump has none of these, re-election would be a disaster for the USA, it will be marginalised by the international community and its traditional allies will be unlikely to want to continue alliances that have lasted decades for the benefit of the USA in particular in terms of intelligence. Trump is widely disliked by America's closest allies as no other president has ever been. Doesn't that tell you something? His continuous disrepect for facts (other than his manufactured facts which are mostly lies) has degraded respect for America, and contrary to what Trump has preached to his believers, the USA cannot go it alone as an isolationist state. It needs trading partners, it needs goodwill from its allies, and Trump has made the USA a laughing stock, which is a very sad state of affairs. His irrationality and mental instability is incompatible with power and he doesn't seem to realise that he can't make up the rules as he goes along to suit himself. Your prediction may come true, but if it does, then it may please those apocalypist-wishing Christians who want to see the four horses and to Hell with people who don't share their religious views. It is all tragic and sad. I feel deeply for Americans as they are contending with a terrible set of circumstances, and it is unlikely they will not learn from the abundant evidence of the disaster that Trump is for the USA.
Actually, Trump is one of the best things that has happened to America. He is the Trumpet of truth , and he is getting things done. ( or at least, in earnest) But the Democ-rats keep putting up road blocks in front of him ,stalling progress. The economy is really picking up, though, and he is doing a great job with foreign affairs. If only he would get the wall built sooner. Also, you are wrong, because a lot of people were upset about Ronald Reagan at first, because the negative naysayers are the ones who divide. But , later on Reagan became a great unifier. Barack Obama certainly was not. He wasn't fit to judge a pie eating contest at the county fair, much less run our country. I hope he goes away gracefully.
What he's so great about?
Selling national parks? Lowering the tax of the rich? Getting rid of financial legislation? Abandoning citizens of his country needing help (Porte-Rico)? Getting rid of environmental legislation? Discriminating peoples on their religion? Making war against science? Denying Climate changes? Cutting education funds? Wanting to torture "terrorists" and their families, thus denying peoples of their rights? Putting more peoples in prison? Surrounding himself with the extreme right? Nominating extremists as judges? Getting rid of net neutrality, thus allowing big corporations to control the content you can or can't access?
I don't see in what he's so great..; and probably never will as my values go more toward humans rights.
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06 Dec 2017, 9:49 pm
rvacountrysinger wrote:
Actually, Trump is one of the best things that has happened to America. He is the Trumpet of truth , and he is getting things done. But the Democ-rats keep putting up road blocks in front of him ,stalling progress. The economy is really picking up, though, and he is doing a great job with foreign affairs. If only he would get the wall built sooner.But , later on Reagan became a great unifier. Barack Obama certainly was not. He wasn't fit to judge a pie eating contest at the county fair, much less run our country. I hope he goes away gracefully.
I wonder how engaging with the far right in my country is getting things done, let alone in earnest. We're not building walls, only breaking down barriers for people. Obama might have eaten all the pie,(in earnest), but Trump spat him out at a victory dance and at inauguration. I don't think the world heard a pin drop.. yet.
We're also expecting the remnants of a late hurricane sweeping our shorelines off the British Isles soon, I hope it doesn't send out the Wild Trump card for a late visa suit, otherwise Interpol will shut its doors down.
If he wants a state visit from us, he'll have to be a good boy and play nicely.. we're the only ones that have acclimatised safe security sense in all our regions and applied the know how to make it work.
No hand holding this time. Just business.
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06 Dec 2017, 10:02 pm
I am going to play the neutral card on this. My only comment is that Trump reminds me of John Adams. He will do/has done some good things but ultimately the bad things he does just cancels it out until eventually he won’t be mentioned like Washington or Lincoln. He will probably just be listed but not described in a presidential timeline 50 years from now. If you mention the good things the bad things always get brought up so might as well say nothing.
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06 Dec 2017, 11:55 pm
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I am going to play the neutral card on this. My only comment is that Trump reminds me of John Adams. He will do/has done some good things but ultimately the bad things he does just cancels it out until eventually he won’t be mentioned like Washington or Lincoln. He will probably just be listed but not described in a presidential timeline 50 years from now. If you mention the good things the bad things always get brought up so might as well say nothing.
I actually think that if this period of time becomes "the Age of the Strongman," then Trump will be remembered for his attempt to bring fascistic populism to America, just as Putin had done in Russia, and Erdogan had done in Turkey, and that he - like they - had ridden in on a wave of racist nationalism, religious bigotry, xenophobia, nativism, homophobia, and general wide spread fear of change.
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06 Dec 2017, 11:58 pm
Tollorin wrote:
rvacountrysinger wrote:
B19 wrote:
Great presidents are unifiers not divisive, with leadership ability and personal stability. As Trump has none of these, re-election would be a disaster for the USA, it will be marginalised by the international community and its traditional allies will be unlikely to want to continue alliances that have lasted decades for the benefit of the USA in particular in terms of intelligence. Trump is widely disliked by America's closest allies as no other president has ever been. Doesn't that tell you something? His continuous disrepect for facts (other than his manufactured facts which are mostly lies) has degraded respect for America, and contrary to what Trump has preached to his believers, the USA cannot go it alone as an isolationist state. It needs trading partners, it needs goodwill from its allies, and Trump has made the USA a laughing stock, which is a very sad state of affairs. His irrationality and mental instability is incompatible with power and he doesn't seem to realise that he can't make up the rules as he goes along to suit himself. Your prediction may come true, but if it does, then it may please those apocalypist-wishing Christians who want to see the four horses and to Hell with people who don't share their religious views. It is all tragic and sad. I feel deeply for Americans as they are contending with a terrible set of circumstances, and it is unlikely they will not learn from the abundant evidence of the disaster that Trump is for the USA.
Actually, Trump is one of the best things that has happened to America. He is the Trumpet of truth , and he is getting things done. ( or at least, in earnest) But the Democ-rats keep putting up road blocks in front of him ,stalling progress. The economy is really picking up, though, and he is doing a great job with foreign affairs. If only he would get the wall built sooner. Also, you are wrong, because a lot of people were upset about Ronald Reagan at first, because the negative naysayers are the ones who divide. But , later on Reagan became a great unifier. Barack Obama certainly was not. He wasn't fit to judge a pie eating contest at the county fair, much less run our country. I hope he goes away gracefully.
What he's so great about?
Selling national parks? ...
I hate to defend Trump, but just what national parks as he sold? Who did he sell them to?
Trump does so many things for honest people to complain about that there is no need to make things up.
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07 Dec 2017, 12:27 am
kokopelli wrote:
Tollorin wrote:
rvacountrysinger wrote:
B19 wrote:
Great presidents are unifiers not divisive, with leadership ability and personal stability. As Trump has none of these, re-election would be a disaster for the USA, it will be marginalised by the international community and its traditional allies will be unlikely to want to continue alliances that have lasted decades for the benefit of the USA in particular in terms of intelligence. Trump is widely disliked by America's closest allies as no other president has ever been. Doesn't that tell you something? His continuous disrepect for facts (other than his manufactured facts which are mostly lies) has degraded respect for America, and contrary to what Trump has preached to his believers, the USA cannot go it alone as an isolationist state. It needs trading partners, it needs goodwill from its allies, and Trump has made the USA a laughing stock, which is a very sad state of affairs. His irrationality and mental instability is incompatible with power and he doesn't seem to realise that he can't make up the rules as he goes along to suit himself. Your prediction may come true, but if it does, then it may please those apocalypist-wishing Christians who want to see the four horses and to Hell with people who don't share their religious views. It is all tragic and sad. I feel deeply for Americans as they are contending with a terrible set of circumstances, and it is unlikely they will not learn from the abundant evidence of the disaster that Trump is for the USA.
Actually, Trump is one of the best things that has happened to America. He is the Trumpet of truth , and he is getting things done. ( or at least, in earnest) But the Democ-rats keep putting up road blocks in front of him ,stalling progress. The economy is really picking up, though, and he is doing a great job with foreign affairs. If only he would get the wall built sooner. Also, you are wrong, because a lot of people were upset about Ronald Reagan at first, because the negative naysayers are the ones who divide. But , later on Reagan became a great unifier. Barack Obama certainly was not. He wasn't fit to judge a pie eating contest at the county fair, much less run our country. I hope he goes away gracefully.
What he's so great about?
Selling national parks? ...
I hate to defend Trump, but just what national parks as he sold? Who did he sell them to?
Trump does so many things for honest people to complain about that there is no need to make things up.
Trump's just gave up protected government lands in Utah that have been sacred to Native American tribes living there, as well as huge deposits of dinosaur bones which is a Paleontologist's dream. He says he's giving this land "back to the people," but the thing is, IT ALREADY IS ALL OUR LAND! We all have the right to visit there, go camping, hiking, or do important work digging up the earth's prehistoric past life, etc. What this opens up to is potentially private business developing those wild areas which would be closed off to the public, and would destroy fossils and artifacts. Buying up public lands by business - called the Wise Use movement - has been a wet dream of the private sector for decades now. And Trump is making that dream of theirs come true.
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07 Dec 2017, 2:52 am
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Probably a lot of people consider land development more important than more piles of bones and pottery shards.
And a lot of people consider saving those so called piles of bones to be important. A lot of others care about being able to go camping and hiking in public lands - - try doing that if those lands get turned into private property.
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07 Dec 2017, 3:00 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
ScarletIbis wrote:
I am going to play the neutral card on this. My only comment is that Trump reminds me of John Adams. He will do/has done some good things but ultimately the bad things he does just cancels it out until eventually he won’t be mentioned like Washington or Lincoln. He will probably just be listed but not described in a presidential timeline 50 years from now. If you mention the good things the bad things always get brought up so might as well say nothing.
I actually think that if this period of time becomes "the Age of the Strongman," then Trump will be remembered for his attempt to bring fascistic populism to America, just as Putin had done in Russia, and Erdogan had done in Turkey, and that he - like they - had ridden in on a wave of racist nationalism, religious bigotry, xenophobia, nativism, homophobia, and general wide spread fear of change.
Have to wonder how much of that was motivated by the liberalism/pc/sjw movement to try force changing so many things. Maybe too many got sick of having so much "rammed down their throats". I'm not sure that a radical force of change movement is really any better than a strongman.
07 Dec 2017, 3:13 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Probably a lot of people consider land development more important than more piles of bones and pottery shards.
And a lot of people consider saving those so called piles of bones to be important. A lot of others care about being able to go camping and hiking in public lands - - try doing that if those lands get turned into private property.
Wehereas a lot of people think there's already an abundance of it. How many acres of hiking and excavating still remain? Are the areas being converted to public land even used or is it what everyone drives through to get to the good parts? I know with Nevada state and national parks, a lot of the surrounding outskirts of them are just miles of wasteland.
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