Why do social conservatives support capitalism?

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20 Jan 2018, 11:15 am

Hi all. Here is another big topic that I want to bring up, just in case there are any social conservatives left here.

Why do social conservatives support capitalism so often?

I think I know why - party loyalty. Most American conservatives will almost never criticize the Republican Party. Instead, they will try to justify everything that the Republican Party does. Similarly, many American liberals will attempt to justify everything that the Democratic Party does. In my opinion, party loyalty is a very dangerous thing because it stifles independent thought. Politics is supposed to be a science. Party loyalty transforms politics into a series of conflicting cults, rather than a science.

Liberalism is supposed to be about liberty and the removal of illegitimate forms of authority. Thus, liberals should be willing to criticize the Democratic Party when it becomes an illegitimate form of authority or allows illegitimate authorities to run amok. In its current form, the Democratic Party is a big business party, which is why it needs to be reeled in with the help of represent.us. Fortunately, many American liberals agree with me on this one. Additionally, liberals in other parts of the world should be trying to solve the corruption in their own liberal parties as well. Liberalism will ultimately fail unless it is a global effort.

Now it's time for conservatives to step up to the plate.

Dear Conservatives: Consider the following.

- Conservatives usually believe that prostitution is a form of moral degeneracy. In practice, prostitution is more common in capitalist societies because young women are forced into the profession. Additionally, most socialists despise prostitution just as much as conservatives do.
- Conservative men usually prefer women who are traditional and ladylike. Of course, many women in the lower classes work outside the home because the family needs an extra source of income. In other words, capitalism is a threat to the "nuclear family" structure that conservatives see as beautiful, natural and godly. Many 19th century socialists also made this point.
- Abortion is more common in red states than in blue states. This is because women usually have abortions when they cannot financially support a child.
- Jesus wasn't fond of money or greed. He made this very clear several times.
- Big businesses almost always support mass immigration and "globalism" because they profit off it.
- Conservatives often speak of "national unity" ... but how can a country have national unity if the economy is based on competition?
- Drug abuse is more common in capitalist societies. Poverty is the main factor.
- Capitalist rhetoric often draws upon social Darwinism ... but aren't Christian conservatives supposed to oppose any sort of Darwinism?
- Ronald Reagan supported gun control. Karl Marx opposed it.
- Pierre-Joseph Proudhon - the first anarchist ever - was a supporter of traditional family structure.

Bottom Line: The Republican Party, much like the Democratic Party, is a big business party in its current form. If you really want to protect the rights of gun-owning Christian Americans, party loyalty clearly isn't the way to go.


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20 Jan 2018, 11:38 am

We're reluctant capitalists - opposed to the many and varied failures of Marxist and socialist economics. Many of your criticisms of modern neo-liberal capitalist societies, we share. That doesn't mean we're going to follow you down the socialist rabbit hole.


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20 Jan 2018, 11:58 am

Mikah wrote:
Many of your criticisms of modern neo-liberal capitalist societies, we share.


You, unfortunately, don't speak for all conservatives here.


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20 Jan 2018, 3:00 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Mikah wrote:
Many of your criticisms of modern neo-liberal capitalist societies, we share.


You, unfortunately, don't speak for all conservatives here.


Conservatives or social conservatives? I was responding to "social conservatives" of the title. I'm definitely not a Republican cheerleader or its European equivalent.


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20 Jan 2018, 3:20 pm

Mikah wrote:
Conservatives or social conservatives? I was responding to "social conservatives" of the title. I'm definitely not a Republican cheerleader or its European equivalent.


Good for you.

Unfortunately, some conservatives nowadays have unflinching party loyalty ... to the point where they don't seem to have any real principles.

As far as I'm concerned, anyone who supports anti-corruption legislation is an ally of mine.


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20 Jan 2018, 5:18 pm

I know many social conservatives who support left wing economic systems such as Christian anarchists and Christian socialists.

Me personally, I am a left-libertarian who is a liberal quaker. I am libertarian in most things. The only socially conservative part about me is that I am pro-life, however at the same time that is only my personal opinion and I say that I would contradict myself if I would try to ban abortion because it wouldn't be a libertarian thing to do.



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20 Jan 2018, 6:29 pm

Aniihya wrote:
I know many social conservatives who support left wing economic systems such as Christian anarchists and Christian socialists.

Me personally, I am a left-libertarian who is a liberal quaker. I am libertarian in most things. The only socially conservative part about me is that I am pro-life, however at the same time that is only my personal opinion and I say that I would contradict myself if I would try to ban abortion because it wouldn't be a libertarian thing to do.


I can appreciate and understand such a position.

After all, many unplanned pregnancies happen when people are taught to avoid birth control and "deviant" sexual behavior.


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20 Jan 2018, 6:57 pm

I would rather have people put their children up for adoption if they don't want the children though and maybe have an organization that reimburses medical costs and some missed work if they know that the child will be put up for adoption upon birth or within a month afterwards.