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24 Mar 2018, 7:25 pm

It is true that Hamas is like this.

It's also worth noting that not all Palestinians agree with Hamas.

Many Zionists claim "The Palestinian people voted for Hamas! They're all savages!"

This accusation doesn't hold water because, given that American democracy is so corrupt, why should we believe that Palestinian democracy is any different? It's entirely possible that Hamas seized power through electoral fraud or corruption.


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25 Mar 2018, 2:18 pm

How many of the newest generation of Palestinians will be corrupted by such hate?


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25 Mar 2018, 4:05 pm

It's a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood after all.



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25 Mar 2018, 5:51 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
It's a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood after all.


And they do moderate Muslims a very great disservice...



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25 Mar 2018, 6:00 pm

Almost all muslims hate jews. Its because the quran is anti-jewish, it even tells muslims to kill jews.



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25 Mar 2018, 6:38 pm

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Almost all muslims hate jews. Its because the quran is anti-jewish, it even tells muslims to kill jews.


There are a lot of very nasty things in the old testament also but only what I would call "extremists" would use that as a guide...

There is a call for Muslim revisionism for the same reason, many say...

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Grooming gangs of Muslim men failed to integrate into British society
The failure of certain parts of the Asian community to integrate into British society has led to gangs of British Pakistani Muslim men​ targeting white women with drink and drugs before raping and sexually abusing them, an anti-extremism think tank claims.

The report by Quilliam calls for greater support to help integrate British Pakistani people into modern British society.

It says that the gangs of mainly British-Pakistani men "have been influenced by the cultural conditions of their home country and a wider failure of British society to integrate these men into their adoptive culture".

The report also urges politicians and the police to dismiss political correctness and fears of being branded racist to ensure they can tackle the problem of grooming gangs head on.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/1 ... h-society/



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25 Mar 2018, 7:01 pm

I did for a while basically have no sympathy for Palestinians following the election of Hamas. But then I looked at the alternative. As with Trump, I think the opposition was less garbage but still garbage, garbage enough to not hold it against Palestinians just as I don't hold Trump against Americans.

As for the British grooming gangs, saying they failed to integrate suggests they desired to and tried. They did not, they rejected British culture, and steamrolled over it with their own barbarian one.



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25 Mar 2018, 7:17 pm

This reminded me that we should have had another election in Palestine. What a surprise that we haven't. Supposedly there will be one by the end of 2018, but I will believe that when I see it.



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25 Mar 2018, 9:53 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
It is true that Hamas is like this.

It's also worth noting that not all Palestinians agree with Hamas.

Many Zionists claim "The Palestinian people voted for Hamas! They're all savages!"

This accusation doesn't hold water because, given that American democracy is so corrupt, why should we believe that Palestinian democracy is any different? It's entirely possible that Hamas seized power through electoral fraud or corruption.



For that matter, when was Hamas elected into power, and how many Palestinian adults (current potential voters) were old enough to vote when that occurred? It seems unfair to blame people because their (rightfully) upset parents voted for a party 12 years ago. Further, given the corruption present within the more acceptable parties, who wouldn't understand a desire to cast a protest vote for the Deplorables of Palestine? :wink:


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26 Mar 2018, 2:10 am

It's also worth to not that Hamas wouldn't exist if there was no Israel.



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26 Mar 2018, 2:12 am

Pepe wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
It's a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood after all.


And they do moderate Muslims a very great disservice...



Moderate Muslims...or Moderate Jews = people who believe in the embellished version of their religion.

Radical Muslims are the true muslims.

Radical Jews are the true jews.

Let's not forget this too:

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The hatred against Israel didn't come from nowhere.



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26 Mar 2018, 4:01 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Pepe wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
It's a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood after all.


And they do moderate Muslims a very great disservice...



Moderate Muslims...or Moderate Jews = people who believe in the embellished version of their religion.

Radical Muslims are the true muslims.

Radical Jews are the true jews.

Let's not forget this too:

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The hatred against Israel didn't come from nowhere.


Holey crap!
What were they thinking?... 8O



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26 Mar 2018, 5:18 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Pepe wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
It's a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood after all.


And they do moderate Muslims a very great disservice...



Moderate Muslims...or Moderate Jews = people who believe in the embellished version of their religion.

Radical Muslims are the true muslims.

Radical Jews are the true jews.

Let's not forget this too:

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The hatred against Israel didn't come from nowhere.


Any adults, who ever they are or whatever religion they belong to, should be ashamed for teaching children to hate. Sadly enough, I know they're not.


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26 Mar 2018, 9:45 am

"Reform" Jews, who are not "radical" by any means, believe themselves to be full-fledged Jews.

I am also under the impression that relatively secular (non-radical) Muslims in places like Turkey and Morocco believe themselves to be full-fledged Muslims



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28 Mar 2018, 1:35 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
"Reform" Jews, who are not "radical" by any means, believe themselves to be full-fledged Jews.

I am also under the impression that relatively secular (non-radical) Muslims in places like Turkey and Morocco believe themselves to be full-fledged Muslims


All non-radical believers believe themselves as full-fledge believers.

Reality though very few of those know their religion deeply. For instance, very few Muslims ever read about the disturbing hadiths said by Mohammad.

Albania is another Muslim country which is very moderate, unlike Chechens(which is VERY conservative/radical) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4-Xz_L ... r_embedded


It also depends on the followed school of thought:

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Sha'fii and Maliki are the most moderate Sunni sects, Hanbali is the worst.

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The Hanbali school was founded by Ahmad ibn Hanbal. It is followed by Muslims in Qatar, most of Saudi Arabia and minority communities in Syria and Iraq. The majority of the Salafist movement claims to follow this school.