Incel terrorism

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But it only worked because the proxy gladly accepted his rôle.

I posted this in another thread but they also do talk about intra-gender dynamics as it relates to agression, suicide, etc. among the sexes and it seems like a lot of what Jonathan's saying agrees with what we've been saying about male and female aggression toward their own not differing in quantity but in kind:

This conversation might set people's hair on fire, maybe that's a good thing. They're talking about a documentary film that Jan (Jan-Willem Breure) made after some of his female interns had some at-length conversations with him about feminine sexuality where what he was hearing from them ran contra to what he'd heard so far and being the kind of curious guy who runs a film company he decided to delve into it.

One of the main recurring themes that he and Karen seem to be discussing is the move toward, if not in legal title, a sort of unofficially polygamous society in that on paper it's not acceptible in the eyes of the law but that the public apparatus for relationships is sharply pitched now in a Pareto direction. They talk about the sharp differences in how both genders set their bar on attractiveness, how much socioeconomic status comes in to play, and I think Jan has two deep concerns about the future a) men and women drifting apart, becoming even angrier with each other and b) the kind of violence that we've known polygamous cultures to generate getting repeated in the west.

Ah, so it's women's sexuality that is to blame. Of course. Next we'll be hearing about the evils of hypergamous women and casual sex and how the women's sexual revolution is actually what destroyed the western world. f*****g stupid incel ideology.

Karen Straughan is an MRA that no one but the worst anti-feminists and women-haters takes seriously. She likes to be an activist for men by calling other women c***s. She was featured on the new Buzzfeed documentary program on Netflix recently (I believe the program is called "Follow This"), calling the female journalist who tried to interview her about men's rights issues a c**t on camera.

Call me not at all surprised that someone would post something by her in a thread about incel terrorism, like she is at all relevant to the discussion or to anythign else other than hating women. You keep pushing to make this thread about women, guys. It's transparent and pathetic and just what incels would do on one of their forums, with the exception of the death and rape threats against women because those are actually against the rules here.

I'm starting to think the problem is less women and more just shrill people who can make the corporate world, public space, and social media dance to their weaponized character flaws and castrate the power of responsible adulthood. With responsible adulthood out the way and no longer a problem the force of what our genes tell us to do can maybe run us full speed back into the jungle. No one has any right to demand something from another person's body, no sane person should deny that. They can't deny that people who get dehumanized by that process just get treated as non-human in general, without ever having to or wanting to impose themselves on anyone. Just that little, tiny, bit of self-reflection and knowing just how heartless nature is to people in various ways could otherwise help us guide civil discourse better - if a more equitable world is what people even want.

OTOH if the worst of the worst anti-feminists and woman-haters are on good speaking terms with evolutionary biologists and having cordial interviews with them where real woman-lovers aren't, I think that speaks volumes on where were at and what passes for truth, or hate for that matter, these days. Science has drifted too far from the genome, as has our formulations of objective truth, it's gotten overbearing, so we could very well be gearing up for a good proper dark age where we let religion, barbarism, mob rule, and feelings rule everything.

JP has become less of an evolutionary biologist than a public figure for his opinions. Also, he rubs lots of people the wrong way. /metaphor

Damn those shrill harpies.

Incels keep trying to push women's buttons and saying sexist things, and they keep getting sexually rejected by women for it. Poor incels just can't catch a break! The world is so cruel to sexist men, it's like totally unfair, man!

If only women would stop being so shrill, men wouldn't have to keep going on shooting sprees. When will we emotional and stupid ladies ever learn to stop pushing men to such violence for the sake of our hypergamous slu*ty natures? If I weren't so mentally limited by my lady-brain I might be able to figure out a solution to the problem of women driving men to violence. Damn you, lady-brain!

I think I'm at least learning one thing about some kinds of people - there's an obsession with personality and facts can't stand on their own, maybe because critical thinking is thought to be impossible? There also seems to be a thought by some people that all of reality might be here specifically here for their coddling and if ever they hear a suggested fact that they don't like its truth or falsity is proven by their emotional reaction - research being wholly irrelevant.

This is also the first time in my life that anyone has ever called me an incel, now several times. I've never thought of myself as one, can't relate to the label because it doesn't reflect my life priorities. This seems to be coming from someone with such narrow capacity for empathy that they'd project on others that if they can understand x they must be x themselves. This is also someone who can apparently read what I write just fine when they have a slam dunk cheapshot lined up but if its a good point or one they can't do that with it becomes unreadable, I've met religious cult leaders who played these kinds of games with language barriers. Its cunning manipulation pure and simple.