What's the political climate like in the UK right now?

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I only caught a bit of it but I saw Johnson say first off that he would happily leave with no deal as he would use the 2 year implementation period afterwards to negotiate (wtf!?) then he said it's ok as he would just use GATT 24 to continue as we are

I am ok with Johnson taking over. He is just the next in line to be screamed at that he is a 'traitor'

Stewart gone.

And then there were 4.....

Stewart was the one with by far the best chance of making it to Christmas. But he was also the one with the least chance of being approved by the membership.

The race is now Johnson vs three identical "continuity May" candidates. Of the three I think Gove is the best politician but he'd be both infuriating and wasted as Prime Minister. Let's give him another ministerial role. Nobody as boring as Hunt deserves to be Prime Minister. So Javid, by default, but he'll be out next.

It's been clear that Johnson is going to win ever since the very first round and I've had no reason to revise that view. And I think his best chance of making it to Christmas is calling an election for January.

Well, I'm glad someone is out. Rory Stewart. I mean, he spends 150k in one year to cover staffing, P.R travel and office costs and he decides on bizarrely sticking with a deal that wasn't passed, and not believing in ANY tax cuts for anyone. Boris rates middle to top earners saying they need a hefty tax reduction and you have humble viewers asking him on telly if the Torry Party would scrap tax for higher income earners and not answer on the lower threshold.
I will tell you all why. Universal Credit, founded by Ian D Smith, inflicting turmoil on all British families in need of a top up for their worthless incomes.
Its not working this poxy benefit, as it scraps about a third off the total amount of earnings the lowest paid earner can earn each month. Food banks wasn't brought up, its a disgrace to most British people that in one of the supposedly richest economies, British politics as it stands now, is a waste of time and money, which btw, the longer this whole charade carries on with Brussels, the more the taxpayer has to fork out. I feel really sorry for these people who have had to put up with it. Now Raab, had enough moral diversity to clarify his beliefs on all matters, but I do think that a concrete plan needs hard facts presented to the official juries. Gove talks total BS about matters of education, reformed academies, ask any parent, the power to exclude after three failed attendances and poor conduct is ever more potent, not the fact they are living and possibly even starving in poverty.
I work with young children, and I don't assume, I know, that some of these kids parents are too young and cant even afford a new pair of shoes for their growing children. So, how about reform some matters in the political economic underbelly currently being diverted to the rich,- down a fluorescent tunnelled escape route like HS2, and sort out the real scandals that is behind these schemes, in order to draw up a sensible and real extension to the task in hand.
Gove also believes that the jobs of today are not going to exist anymore, only in robotics, so goodbye manufacturers and warehouse workers, oh and cleaners of this dying sector of industry, because Project fear of (I.T Mechanical Robotics),will be the new solution to this currently unyielding trade ownership and follow up of pragmatic ideas this placid empirical state of affairs is showing. What about the car industry for young apprentices, and guaranteed employment that was promised, by Cameron's party, after their programmes have finished? What about steel apprentices, builders, plasterers, all manual traders who have a life to lead?
How about hiring a Jailhouse for all these rich scandalous M.Ps and their current affairs, that doesn't include a bailout arear system, unless it passes through parliaments doors. Get Bercow out and replace him with a much younger statesman, someone younger (and preferably wiser!).

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Al "Boris" Johnson looks set to become Prime Minister. It's regrettable, but is there really anybody better on offer?

^^ NO. Career politicians the lot of them. You only have to view their own parentage to see how far the apple falls.

It wasn't an endorsement. I can't stand Al Johnson or any of the other candidates. I really don't care who wins. I just want to see a General Election so that the Conservative Party can be got rid of altogether, and one will be called when Johnson fails to deliver Brexit in October.

Who's on better terms with the E.U to find out what's on offer or at stake then? The last thing will be a general election, as Labour have too many M.P'S, they would block Brexit from ever happening, just like they blocked most of the amendments going through, and they even tried to prevent a NO deal.
The Torries will stick together's on this one through every striking battle and declare victory, even if they happen to fall short of the original conviction. The law wasn't set up for fools, I hope they see adverse common sense enough to pave the way out of this doomed European union, once and for all.

If the Conservative Party really were to collapse - which seems unlikely to me - then would we get Prime Minister Corbyn or would the Lib Dems make enough gains to send Davey or Swinson to number 10?

Either way, if Johnson fails then that is final proof that Brexit is both very difficult and a very bad idea.

@^^Which is obviously your own biased Opinion of democracy.

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The Tories are pro-EU just as much as Labour - (who got us into the union?) If they're unified, it's against Brexit. Mr Stewart and Mr Gove have already stated they'll block a no-deal Brexit (just Brexit to you and me) and it's clear, from his secret meetings with Anthony Blair, where Johnson's loyalties are.

^^ If Jeremy Corrbyn is your preferred favourite to snub the path of real change, then there really will be a black adder waiting in the wings, already the pitched fork is out on display for all the jury to see, so who do you back? You don't seem to have a political sway either way. You must have a democratic thought process on something.
I wouldn't like to be the one who sees more Tory austerity, and no government backing from either political parties.
Well, like fairy dust in the wind , there might just be one more hat trick. As for BJ, I think he needs to pluck the rabbit from his giant sized priministerial/ex mayor waistcoat pretty soon, or be prepared to swallow a Brexit Party digestion pill!

My vote is reluctantly going to the Brexit Party, though I'm not a fan of Farage or his Thatcherite philosophy and buffoonish persona.

There are actually two parties calling themselves the Brexit Party. There's The Brexit Party, then there's The Party Of Political Change aka The Brexit Party, because Anna Soubry thought she could grant herself more leeway and just cause to the Torries doomed campaign version of a united Britain. I watch question time and judging by the audiences reaction to her mock outbursts, I'd say they know a scandal when they see one.
As for Farage, Id say there's been enough dairy thrown at him from disgruntled farmers than the rebuke from Thatcher's school milk taxation! IOW- the end for free school milk.


That's one way to contact your superiors, to enquire knowledge of a supremely opinionated and questionable revisal scheme of schemes.
Good Show Nigel, Keep up the good Brexit work!



Have any women become so tired and frustrated in her choice of men that the only feasible way to vent her actions is in a media frenzied attempt?! Hashtag warning Don't barrage the Farage!

Michael Gove is a psycopath. He crows about human rights while his government helps bomb civilians in Yemen and Gaza.

Raab was the only half decent candidate.

The only way I can see Brexit ever getting through is by the MP's approving the WA. It's been made clear on the 3 votes so far that not enough MP's (both leave voting and remain voting) will approve the WA as it is. So it's down to whether the EU will amend it, though they say they won't. I do wonder if having an ERG member as Prime Minister will appease the rest of the ERG to vote for the WA knowing that they can rip up the PD and re write that again later. There would need to be some amendments to the WA from the EU for that to happen as the ERG would not just vote for what they have said is terrible, pride alone doesn't allow for that, so any kind of tiny technical changes to wording could open the door for them to claim it's enough of a change to get them onside.

right now it just feels like Johnson will take this to October and then get screamed at as being a 'traitor' by the usual lot and we are right back to square 1.

Who knows though tbh......