The Feminine and the Rehabilitation of the West

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I think the mistake you're making here is considering archetypes to be a synonym for tribal knowledge. That's not quite the way to look at them. They're more like laterally circumscribed concepts that don't have a height or depth cap and are likely to only gain complexity with their circumscribed terrain. The ones we've mapped are also keyed into core human volitional trajectories so unless we upload ourselves Kurzweil-style and bank a really hard left or right we're unlikely to ever leave their shadow but far more likely extend it. It's a bit like differential calculus never voided addition, subtraction, multiplication , or division or how a rainbow now, unless we've completely destroyed our atmosphere, will be a rainbow ten thousand or ten million years from now.

Another thought, part of why I take triumphalism less seriously with each passing year is it seems to just be a really vogue, stylish, and sciency-looking form of Dunning Kruger. It reliably misses the complexity of things, only discovers that when grandiose plans go nothing like expected, and that pattern's not likely to stop in my lifetime. Anytime people say we're truly in new territory or truly leaving where we came from I have to take it as hyperbole. It's more like them saying that we haven't leveraged a particular angle as well as we're about to but it's always some blend of things that have always been here and as long as that remains the case (likely indefinitely) we're not leaving our ground of causality nor the dynamics that began our propulsion to where we're at to begin with.

I get what you mean with my mistaking archetypes for tribal knowledge. However, I don't fully agree - yes, archetypes are extendable concepts, and maybe my "kid with a phone" was poorly chosen...

you mean this strange modern triumphalism, that now everything's different, and everything before was "primitive"?
of course that's a bit dumb, but I have the feeling man is very much in the process of waking up and realizing that there are inborn traits, species-specific behaviours etc. that hinder him from ever becoming "modern" in the sense he thought himself to be, or at least on the verge of becoming, for a few centuries now. That should however not fool you - time moves in one direction, and technological advances change the rules of the game, faster and faster.
There are issues that we never had to address before, and answers from only a few decades ago don't suffice anymore - I mean things like: what does gender mean if you can choose? - Once humans are grown in artificial amniotic sacks - which so far has already been tried on sheep embryos - what will biological sex mean then? the metaphorical categories will need to undergo some serious stretching, to the point of becoming meaningless as concepts, to keep up with how the real concepts change and evolve.

I do get that the hero today is not the literal hero of myths, and it's all being read as universal metaphor - but at some point, the simplicity of the metaphor either makes it irrelevant, or it loses its simplictiy. .... in the words of Joseph Campbell "only the hero has a destiny." well... if there's no destiny, though....

I think with where we're at, at least politically, the next few generations will be trying to find more technological ways to decentralize power and make global problem-solves, like with global warming, non-bioldegradables, other delerious human population problems, or even issues like mass coronal ejection insurance on electrical grids or asteroid protection, more internationally viable. I do think a lot of people's attention will be elsewhere, on bigger things. I'd also add that it's rare for a person to really be deep into issues like philosophy, mysticism, or any somewhat unrelated but 'knowledge about life' topics without society sort of having dropped them and put them in a position where they had to figure these things out - thus it's more likely that if people are paying mindful attention to archetypes it will have more to do with political contagions or moral panics in terms of figuring out which primal button got pushed to start the stampede.

As far as the future and complexity are concerned though I have a couple predictions that I think will pan out:

1) Science will attempt to pick higher and higher fruit as the low-hanging stuff is cleared away, meaning it will at some point need to take a leap into deeper layers of complexity than it has in the past. They might be able to outsource the complexity issues to AI to an extent so as to keep it from being a Sisyphean task.

2) Materialism will increasingly become less 'material'. We're already a long way from contact-mechanics or images of billiard balls sticking together or hitting each other but I think the rabbit hole of interactions will get a lot more incestuous. This is where holographic effects will be better understood and quite likely interactions of information, consciousness, etc. will likely be found to be holographic as such. In a way Arthur C Clark's prediction that 'Sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic' may become quite true albeit in terms of the result more than the method.

I think in this sense most of our really challenging problems, aside from maybe the current century's issue of making sure everyone can eat or find shelter or making sure we don't destroy the planet with our byproducts, will come in the form of needing to calm down our approach to life. What I'd agree with you on is that a hero myth for the future can't be Julius Evola's man finding his manhood and his God on the battlefield in arms against another country, we're too powerful for that now, it will have to be abstracted into creative endeavors, self-cultivation, etc..

La femme-enfant est plutôt bien vue dans la société./ The woman-child is rather welllooked upon in society.
(And as consumer)

What does the term “femme enfant” mean to you?
Simon Porte: The femme enfant is this very French idea of a woman who never quite left childhood behind. You couldn’t quite tell whether she is a girl, a woman, or a girl trying to be a woman. It could be a 20 year-old girl or a 40 year-old woman who, taking her kids to school, realises in some ways she is more childish than they are. My own mother is a bit like that, but she always expresses it in a very subtle way. A true femme enfant is never too obvious or exaggerated.
Why did you decide to make a film about her?
Simon Porte: The femme enfant was the inspiration behind my collection. I’m quite obsessed with the idea of childhood, the fun, the playfulness, the carelessness… and I think it always shows in my collections; but this season, as I was designing, I started to imagine all this story about a young femme enfant who lives like children live: she plays, she draws, she eats… and I translated all that into the naïve shapes, the colour contrasts and the oversized graphic shapes of the collection. And, since the collection started with a story, it quite naturally turned into a short film.
http://www.dazeddigital.com/fashion/art ... mme-enfant

"In 1970 the movement was called 'Women's Liberation' or, contemptuously, 'Women's Lib'. When the name 'Libbers' was dropped for 'Feminists' we were all relieved. What none of us noticed was that the ideal of liberation was fading out with the word. We were settling for equality. Liberation struggles are not about assimilation but about asserting difference, endowing that difference with dignity and prestige, and insisting on it as a condition of self-definition and self-determination. The aim of women's liberation is to do as much for female people as has been done for colonized nations. Women's liberation did not see the female's potential in terms of the male's actual; the visionary feminists of the late sixties and early seventies knew that women could never find freedom by agreeing to live the lives of unfree men. Seekers after equality clamoured to be admitted to smoke-filled male haunts. Liberationists sought the world over for clues as to what women's lives could be like if they were free to define their own values, order their own priorities and decide their own fate. (The Female Eunuch was one feminist text that did not argue for equality." in Greer, Germaine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Female_Eunuch)

"Breton's conception of the femme-enfant as an enchanting, liminal and rebellious figure has often been dismissed as a conservative, and ultimately sexist, idealisation. According to W Chadwick, the surrealist search for the woman-child' was one for a figure whose presence 'inevitably, and perhaps more than any other single factor,' worked 'to exclude woman artists from the possibility of a profound personal identification with the theoretical side of Surrealism."
from somewhere in here > https://www.research.manchester.ac.uk/p ... 98933b322c).html/papersofsurrealism/journal9/acrobat_files/McAra%2013.9.11.pdf


A Companion to Dada and Surrealism
David Hopkins
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/boo ... 1118476215
or i read on google ,from down to up

Concerning Freud and others like him, there is no inferior sex. The sexes of a species are complimentary to the extent that the species may continue to exist. One is not lacking in their purpose over the other. However one sex may appear inferior to the other if one measures that sex against the standards of the other, which is the mistake Freud and those like him made...measuring females against the standards and ideals which pertain to males.

Richard Tarnas on Rebel Media. He had some interesting things to say on bifurcating the mascule and feminine into a solar and lunar of each (sort of like a sub-masculine and sub-feminine within each). For a lot of people that rings of the four elements in their triangle representations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Dg-g7t2l4

A 'Quick OverView', on 'Particle Physics', Is Interesting; but yes,
What It Lacks Is This Other YouTube Source of Richard Tarnas; Thanks For Providing both.

Science Can And Will be Rather Dry in/as Mind/Body/Whole; With No Soul (Psyche); And as We Know, Feel,
And Sense What We Feed Ourselves from Birth is What We Come to Be Far More Than Just Bread and Water.

Almost everything that Richard says 'here', now; i've already Put into Free Verse Poetry Coming 'Spiraling'
From Within. And sure; that's not the First Instance by Far that others; where many others have put it all in
Different Words as Form where The Essence is Familiar and Easy to Find Again For Those Who Can and Will
See more through Metaphors than Black and White, Literal Think. It's Like the New Testament and somehow
Getting Lost in 'Revelation'; not realizing how many Anonymous 'Writers' Then, Put the Whole Book together
in terms of the 'Editors', who did, to the Whims of whatever Suited them then. Never the Less, i for one Can
and Will find Most of this in the New Testament Still For Soul Rather Than Card Board Homes, just waiting
for Some Gaslit Reality Spoon Fed From Birth in a Dirt Nap when 'That Big Book' Clearly relates with a Duh
For me that Heaven is the Deeper As Within Now That Verily Makes every Second of Life Delicious, now;
For Those
Who
Seek
And Find
And Master
Their Inner Multi-Uni-Verse
of Life to Literally Do/Be Their Metaphorical Bliss; More Now.

This is a 'Tough' Crowd 'here' to Discuss the Deeper Parts of Existence
to Synthesize A Whole of Being With 'All That Is' Now; But, it's Like Running
A TreadMill with a Cloth Mask Covering one's nose; some folks do it for the
Challenge; where Consumption of Oxygen is Reduced like Running in the Mountains
as the Body Adapts for Challenge for Greater Human Potentials in Fruition. This Website is like that
For me; Much More Potential to be Gained When Resistance is Plentiful; Just like Lifting Weights, too.
Anyway; Definitely A Bright Spot Here with the Insight of Richard Tarnas; even if he is only speaking to
A Choir of Relatively Few, here at least. Western Culture Has been Sick out of Balance with 'Divine' Balance
of Feminine and Masculine for as long as i can see. Eastern Culture, not so much; but the Ascetic Non-Flavors
of Many of those Philosophies Doesn't Mesh with Nature and is no way for me. We Need the Form and the Essence;
the Balance of Divine Masculine and Feminine; or the Metaphor of Lunar for Feminine and Solar for Masculine too,
to get out of the Realms of the Places where folks cannot get the 'Reproductive' smaller Parts out of their Head into
Freedom of 'Spirit' More. In other Words, We need a Balance of Yin and Yang; and that is verily no new Philosophy;
but for all i Can and Will 'See' It Is True Within, Inside, Outside, Above, So Below and All Around All Is Interconnecting
As "Field";
of
Dreams
Too NoW;
And With
Enough Innate
Instinct and Intuition
We 'rule' An 'All' From Within
Through the Instinct and Intuition
of what we are born with as Gift, Now.
The Internet, Provides all the Resources
one Can and Will Use to 'Seek' and 'Find' 'This' Greater
Human Potential And Not unlike the Movie, 'The Matrix';
It's up to each
and every
individual
"Neo" to
Unplug
As Truly this is
STiLL FULLY An "Inside Job"
to Get Done, Now; No Matter
the Second, the Minute, the Hour
in Increments of 60 WitH A Dance And Song
That Works Individually Created And Worn by Each Individual NoW..

Richard Tarnas, in Summary, Basically Gives A Speech That "Robin Williams"
Did/Does in 'The Dead Poet Society'; A Speech Our Ancestors Used to Live Before We
coMe
to
Drop
the Art
Out of SMart Falling As Such;
WithOut smART MoVeS (Dance) too;
And sure, with the Patience of Small Moves and Steps
too; And Yes, Short Words as Song like Seize The Present Now.
i'M Not one For 'Haiku'; As A Science oF iT SMothers Art Closer to Death As Life.

A Dead Poet's Society

Lives For NoW;

No Zombie Apocalypse;

Silent Never NoW.

If feminism anti-femininity? If it is that would cause me to like it even more.