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08 Nov 2018, 8:54 am

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I think Cenk makes some really good points on this video, about how the Democrats need to get our messaging out. Things like Medicare For All poll at 70%, so a savvy party should really be able to capitalize on that. But we didn't, and we lost ground in the Senate. Cenk thinks if the messaging was better, it would have been a blue tsunami and we would have swept both the House and the Senate.

Democrat's message is weak on purpose.

Most Democrats don't support "Medicare for All", because their donors don't want it.
Most Democrats don't support raising the minimum wage/"living wage", because their donors don't want it.

"Hillary Clinton: Single-payer health care will "NEVER,EVER" happen"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-cl ... er-happen/


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08 Nov 2018, 9:12 am

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beneficii wrote:
I think Cenk makes some really good points on this video, about how the Democrats need to get our messaging out. Things like Medicare For All poll at 70%, so a savvy party should really be able to capitalize on that. But we didn't, and we lost ground in the Senate. Cenk thinks if the messaging was better, it would have been a blue tsunami and we would have swept both the House and the Senate.

Democrat's message is weak on purpose.

Most Democrats don't support "Medicare for All", because their donors don't want it.
Most Democrats don't support raising the minimum wage/"living wage", because their donors don't want it.

"Hillary Clinton: Single-payer health care will "NEVER,EVER" happen"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-cl ... er-happen/


That was exactly Cenk's point. They won't support it despite massive support from the Democratic base on it. I in fact wrote about this in another thread I posted just a few hours ago: The Democratic Party selects its Congressional leadership by who raises the most money. There is no other metric.


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08 Nov 2018, 10:40 am

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Attorney General Jeff Sessions has just resigned.


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08 Nov 2018, 12:05 pm

The Democrats will win nothing if they are crowing for socialism and open borders at the same time.


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08 Nov 2018, 1:15 pm

Left "anti-facisist" facisist groups protested at Tucker Carlson's house.

Calling him names like "RACIST SCUMBAG".

Making threats, "WE KNOW WHERE YOU SLEEP".

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08 Nov 2018, 1:21 pm

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Left "anti-facisist" facisist groups protested at Tucker Carlson's house.

Calling him names like "RACIST SCUMBAG".

Making threats, "WE KNOW WHERE YOU SLEEP".

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"Anti-fascist" in lefty parlance means "extra-fascist."

Maybe they can burn a cross on his lawn next time for good measure — it's standard behavior for the paramilitary wing of the Democratic Party.


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08 Nov 2018, 1:36 pm

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Left "anti-facisist" facisist groups protested at Tucker Carlson's house.

Calling him names like "RACIST SCUMBAG".

Making threats, "WE KNOW WHERE YOU SLEEP".

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These people are sick thugs. They are the fascists.


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08 Nov 2018, 1:43 pm

You always get troublemaker, rabble-rousing elements. Both on the left and right.


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08 Nov 2018, 2:27 pm

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You always get troublemaker, rabble-rousing elements. Both on the left and right.


You do, but it somehow makes it worse when people are acting like the people they are allegedly against. Tucker Carlson is not a fascist, he is capable of rational arguments with rational people. These maniacs are out of control.


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08 Nov 2018, 2:33 pm

No one should be abused anywhere, especially at their home where their family essentially end up on the receiving end too. This lot are straight up shithouses.

Isn't Carlson the guy that rants on tv about panda bears? Are this 'mob' something to do with animal rights?



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08 Nov 2018, 2:37 pm

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No one should be abused anywhere, especially at their home where their family essentially end up on the receiving end too. This lot are straight up shithouses.

Isn't Carlson the guy that rants on tv about panda bears? Are this 'mob' something to do with animal rights?

He's a FOX news reporter ....

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08 Nov 2018, 2:50 pm

He was the guy who was asking questions about why the US, the UK and France were bombing Syria over a YouTube video this year.


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08 Nov 2018, 3:28 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
Left "anti-facisist" facisist groups protested at Tucker Carlson's house.

Calling him names like "RACIST SCUMBAG".

Making threats, "WE KNOW WHERE YOU SLEEP".

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Trump just brings out the best in America, doesn't he? f**k Tucker Carlson.



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08 Nov 2018, 3:33 pm

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LoveNotHate wrote:
Left "anti-facisist" facisist groups protested at Tucker Carlson's house.

Calling him names like "RACIST SCUMBAG".

Making threats, "WE KNOW WHERE YOU SLEEP".

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Trump just brings out the best in America, doesn't he? f**k Tucker Carlson.


Just blame Trump for everything and don't condemn the violent thugs at all.


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08 Nov 2018, 5:23 pm

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Attorney General Jeff Sessions has just resigned.


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... fice-trump

Trump's only loyalty is to himself, with possibly cheeseburgers as a second place getter. The cheeseburgers may yet prove to be the saviour of democracy in the USA. For all his endless words and smug smiles at his cheering fans, I think he has nothing but contempt for them, as "losers", and Trump (as we all know from his vocal record) hates losers, though he loves using them for his own ends. His supporters aren't people with lives to him, they are just numbers and chess pieces, useful enablers. That's how sociopathic leaders with demagogic ambitions are. The great irony is that the people he truly has the most contempt for in all probability profess love for him. They are more to be pitied perhaps than condemned.



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08 Nov 2018, 5:55 pm

Voter fraud going on in Florida as we speak?

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