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11 Mar 2019, 7:12 am

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Does anyone here believe in reincarnation?


I don't.
Once upon a time, folks believed that Mount Meru was the center of a flat earth, populated by gods, brahmins, & devas, surrounded by continents which were concentric rings, populated by all sorts of giants, woodland spirits, hungry ghosts, and giant snakes and birds...and we believed in rebirth.
We know better now.

"I have often said that if science proves facts that conflict with Buddhist understanding, Buddhism must change accordingly. We should always adopt a view that accords with the facts. If upon investigation we find that there is reason and proof for a point, then we should accept it. However, a clear distinction should be made between what is not found by science and what is found to be nonexistent by science. What science finds to be nonexistent we should all accept as nonexistent, but what science merely does not find is a completely different matter."
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11 Mar 2019, 8:15 am

Science has very little Understanding of Human Conciousness and Will not Rule out the Potential That Distance, Space And Time is all An Illusion
And Our Reality Is a Holographic
Simulation Created By Intelligence So Far Beyond us We
Cannot Grasp it Now; so, in other
Words Science is Still Basically Ignorant When it comes to What
Existence Even is as Reality. Love is Real now For i Reincarnate this way Each morning And Feel The Give And Share of What is Real to me. The Rest of ‘It’ may Go to
Hell in Words Now With Will too.


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11 Mar 2019, 8:18 am

Time to start posting Reincarnation jokes...

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11 Mar 2019, 8:24 am

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Isn't this Buddhist philosophy 101? Save for the last two words, because Nirvana?


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11 Mar 2019, 8:30 am

Wolfram87 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
... Life sucks ... You die ... et cetera ... ad eternum ...
Isn't this Buddhist philosophy 101? Save for the last two words, because Nirvana?
Yeah, pretty much.

'Cept I never did like Nirvana.



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11 Mar 2019, 8:31 am

Wolfram87 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
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Isn't this Buddhist philosophy 101? Save for the last two words, because Nirvana?

No.
Buddhism 101 states that (1) there is suffering in the world, (2) suffering doesn't spring out of nowhere; it arises due to causes and conditions, (3) by addressing these causes and conditions, suffering can be ameliorated, (4) the way to do this is by practicing the Noble Eightfold Path (the Dharma).



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11 Mar 2019, 8:40 am

Piobaire wrote:
… Buddhism 101 states that (1) there is suffering in the world, (2) suffering doesn't spring out of nowhere; it arises due to causes and conditions, (3) by addressing these causes and conditions, suffering can be ameliorated, (4) the way to do this is by practicing the Noble Eightfold Path (the Dharma).

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11 Mar 2019, 9:13 am

Nirvana is Just another Fancy way of saying the Flow of ‘Transient
Hypo-Frontality’ where the Neo-Cortex that is ‘Normally’ Servant
Of the Limbic System gets lost
In Abstract Constructs (Words)
Where Flow tames the Neo-Cortex with all its ‘Delusion’
Of Past and Present once again properly put in its Brain Place of ‘Good’ Little Servant of the Limbic System as The ‘Normal’ Feeling of Life gets back to the ‘Sanity’ of a Child’s ‘Heaven’ and Life once again Feels like Pure Unadulterated Love as Bliss As Peak and lasting Plateaus Of Life Experiences come as Human Reality where some Folks Achieve an “Autotelic” State of Being where they master their Feel Great Neurohormones and Neurochemicals through Bio-Feedback of same. Meanwhile, Science can and does Measure this Nirvana Through Brain Scans And increases of Human Creativity 400 to 500 Percent;
And amazingly and unbelievably
As it is to some Folks, Avenues to reach Nirvana and Light up Your Entire Mind and Body in Balance And Flow Like a Real Christmas Tree moving Forward as Greater Light that is NO MYTH Now as assessed by Science requires zero ‘Cultural Clothes’ and may be achieved in an activity as totally free as a naked ascending transcending Spiraling Dance in Sand With Sun as Your only
Companion as the rest of Nature Whole as You Eternally together (GoD) now amazing it is how easy Heaven is to reach everywhere Now in what ‘Brainiacs’ See As a Meaninless Spiraling Dance no Different than
The Ignorance of Unadulterated
Love Free Of Cultural Clothes....
Nirvana And Love Is Essence more than Words...
Thank ‘God’ Science finally
Shows ‘the Ignorant’
Nirvana As Heaven Exists Now.


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11 Mar 2019, 9:30 am

In sum, I would tend to doubt that "reincarnation" is "real."

Though I really wish it would exist---like I wish Heaven exists.



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11 Mar 2019, 10:03 am

The Frisbeeterians adhere to the belief that when you die your spirit floats up and gets stuck on the roof



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11 Mar 2019, 10:03 am

Piobaire wrote:
No.
Buddhism 101 states that (1) there is suffering in the world, (2) suffering doesn't spring out of nowhere; it arises due to causes and conditions, (3) by addressing these causes and conditions, suffering can be ameliorated, (4) the way to do this is by practicing the Noble Eightfold Path (the Dharma).


Wasn't being terribly serious and obviously imprecise, but I was mainly thinking about the "life is suffering" quote.


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11 Mar 2019, 10:19 am

Wolfram87 wrote:
Piobaire wrote:
No. Buddhism 101 states that (1) there is suffering in the world, (2) suffering doesn't spring out of nowhere; it arises due to causes and conditions, (3) by addressing these causes and conditions, suffering can be ameliorated, (4) the way to do this is by practicing the Noble Eightfold Path (the Dharma).
Wasn't being terribly serious and obviously imprecise, but I was mainly thinking about the "life is suffering" quote.
No worries here.

Every religion seems to have some doctrine on why people suffer -- variations on the "Life sucks, and then you die" theme.



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11 Mar 2019, 10:28 am

Considering Science Shows We Are Basically Sentient Star Dust
Resurrecting From Crucible Fire
Of Star Death Burst Stars
Are Flowers and we are
All Reincarnating
Star Seeds in
What We Label
As Human Flesh Reincarnating
Star Flowers We all are now just
Because We Look Different than
Stars the Essence is the same
But Different Vibrations And
Frequencies that make up
The Energy of Us Personally
i am not afraid to Sleep as
Stars And Wake as Flowers
Even if i only
Reincarnate this way
Once As A Miracle of Star
Flower Birthing the seed
Of my Existence Awake Now..:)

It’s All about
Perspective Now..:)


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11 Mar 2019, 11:56 am

I believe that I was here before in the 1940s to the Late 60s. That explains the memories of things from both Nazi Germany and the 1960s.


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