Trump Is Making White People More Hateful

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That's pretty awesome about the bus.

I'm so glad I was raised by a more tolerant family that happens to be from Georgia. Most of them don't care that my father was Polynesian or that I'm gay.

In a way my mom is kind of like Atticus from To Kill a Mockingbird.

Well yeah it quite simply was not tolerated on that bus, some people may think it was mean...but maybe that guy shouldn't have been making racial slurs at minority ethnicity passengers. But yeah my boyfriend seems like he has parents that are more tolerant, as for my parents well they are weird. I remember as a kid my mom constantly complaining about 'the mexicans' and looking back some of that was kind of racist...and my dad he's a good person but he can be ignorant on some topics. Like seems like he's been buying into some of that 'all muslims are bed rhetoric' but I mean how would he feel if he was getting discriminated against for identifying as catholic because some of those catholic priests molested children. I just don't think he sees that part of it. Like he's catholic but he would not condone that kind of thing, so why is it beyond him that not all muslims believe in terrorism or forcing their beliefs? Just so much ignorance in the world.

Well it's not like my family is perfect either. My mom still has a lot of misconceptions about Asians. She likes to think she can tell what Asian country a person comes from just by looking at their face and eyes which is stupid because even her college professor explained that all Asians look very similar and the only way they can tell each other apart is by their languages, accents, and cultural differences. She also still refers to them as "Oriental" even though she knows they hate that term, and if I ever bother to correct her misconception about Asians she gets very mad at me.

I guess nobody is perfect.

It basically comes down to difference of opinion. Trump hasn't been politically correct with his words, he has condemned white supremacists a lot of times, even during his speaches. So what is being suggested here is that a man that has openly condemned white supremacy is somehow encouraging white supremacy, rather odd statement to me. I would imagine the wide spread of left wing journalists and even sometimes left wing media openly being racist towards white people since the day Trump was elected has a lot more to do with the white portion of racists feeling they can be more open about it, which I honestly don't think they ever kept it a secret, more so they just weren't in the spotlight, they are in the spotlight mostly because of left wing media. Now there is another issue, that issue is white supremacists marching through streets. I would assume they feel they can do that now because of the millions of people marching in the streets openly stating racist things towards whites, there for I would imagine it's more of a....well, they can March in the streets making claims like white people are born racist, minorities can't be racist (yes, they can be), white people's opinions don't count on particular subjects, and yes, you even have particular groups in public with white people on their knees with a chain around the and black men holding the chain, and openly stating that now it is time for white people to be slaves. Call me crazy, but I belive that kind of behaviour being displayed openly has alot more encouragement towards white supremacists marching the street than a president which has openly condemned them on several ocasions and whom has even kicked white supremacists out of his events while he was giving speaches.

Clearly, the left spreading ideologies that are racist towards whites will have the ability to make more whites feel outcasted, thus possibly convert a few of them into white supremacists. Racism incites racism just as violence incites violence.

Reminder, millions of left wingers March through the street calling white people, wh***y, racist and telling them their opinion doesn't matter because they are white and that they shouldn't be allowed to speak because they are white. This type of ideologies broke out in a very big manner as soon as Trump was elected, people where attacking whites for being white, throwing bricks and bottles at there cars, snatching them out of their cars and beating them down, there is a famous tape where 3 blacks pulled an old white man out of his car and beat him down, guilty of looking like a Trump voter. Notice all if this took place before white racists started marching in streets.

I wish I could see a video of that. I know that Antifa types are immature hooligans just looking for an excuse for some ultraviolence, but I still relish the prospect of seeing some right-winger getting beaten to a pulp by "everyday" citizens.

Seems like he's brought 4chan down on himself too. Well played.

Before people manage to leap to the conclusion that I'm a 'righty' because I do not support false claims about Trump let me state that I'm not a righty, I have a slight right lean...

I support:

Gun rights
Border security
Freedom of speech
Public schools
A new progressive tax bracket for 10million
The Welfare system
Anti-war & against US presence in other countries
Abortions

:I think we should fix our own country before we set out to police the world. I can understand stepping in, in particular situations but the fact is we have a run-away military who will lie to us so they can attack countries to push their corrupt agendas. We have many poor neighborhoods that we could help out greatly for a fraction of the cost we use to invade other countries.

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I'm confused, hasn't Trump tried many ways to get the wall built? He even shut the government down to try to get the wall built, is he at fault because congress will not allow it? It's not as if it is from a lack of trying to get the wall built.

No, it's just that people who disagree with you calling you whatever their enemy is seems to work at shutting most people up and if it works they'll keep doing it, and if it feels right to them they'll keep doing it too.

Maybe one of the hardest and most important lessons to learn about how a lot of people communicate - if they aren't directly countering your arguments with facts they're probably group-signalling and with respect to what they're doing truth is irrelevant.

I think Trump will likely lose in 2020 because The Wall is his version of Sessions's Devil's Lettuce. If it was something in a wide variety of ideas and he had something more important as his front and center priority okay, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I think that's what it's coming down to - ie. fixing immigration is an important issue but choosing the wall as your hill to die on is tone-deaf to what the actual problems are.

I've contributed lately to Gabbard, Yang, and Williamson because I want to see all three of them at the debates - Gabbard and Yang for obvious reasons, Williamson because she's a huge Yang supporter and will echo his ideas.

I'm struggling to find the study, but there was a study by a group out of Stanford that people build associations of ideas. IE they expect someone who is pro-gun rights to be anti-abortion, even though there's no logical reason for those stances to be aligned. Similarly they expect some one who is pro- gun control to be pro-choice even though once again there's no logical reason for these stances to be aligned.

I remember Sam Harris explicitly complaining about this sort of clustering on several occasions. I agree with him as well, it doesn't inspire much hope in human reason.

Well I guess I am in the minority then because he hasn't made me more hateful.

I don't know if more people have actually become more hateful. I know some people believe that including my own mother. The media could just be reporting it more.

You rejected the hate in the end, and got out of it. That's what counts.

I'll be honest I don't know how the statistic as calculated. However, rape accusations have power. And in many ways a person who makes a false accusation may be more mentally prepared to stand up to the intense questioning than someone who actually went through the horror of a sexual assault. There's also an unknown number of 3rd party accusers.

The Atlantic's Emily Yoffe published a 3 part series on college rape policy and just how murky it can be:
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/a ... cy/538974/

The weaponized accusation is a known phenomenon that has happened again and again across history. Salem witch trials, Red scare McCarthyism.

Anecdotally, I knew a guy in college who had the worst taste in woman. He had an ex-girlfriend from his hometown who was psychotically jealous. He also had a current girlfriend at college who was psychotically possessive. His ex-girlfriend tracked him to college and started making inquiries as to if he was seeing anyone. His current girlfriend felt very threatened and wanted him to get her pregnant so he'd be bound to her. She started demanding he have sex without a condom with her. She said that if he didn't she would report him as a rapist. Guy decided he'd have sex without a condom with her and no rape report was filed.

There are a lot of rapes that don't get reported because the process is arduous and difficult. Is it really so hard to believe that for 9 hurt victims that do actually report there is 1 instance of a bad 3rd party report, a psycho who wants to ruin someone's life, or a regretful sexual encounter that has been recast as an assault?

To me, it is equally bad for people to be racist towards white people on a very wide scale, that pushes people towards racist thoughts more so than the very low percentage of white supremacists trying to recruit people. It gives them fuel to be able to better recruit, making people that are white feel like outcasts by labeling them as 'being born racist because of there skin color', that their opinions don't count because they are white, that they should not be able to speak because they are white, college campuses literally building human walls preventing white people from being able to walk to there classes. Why is this behavior being widely accepted? It is just as damaging as white supremacists trying to recruit, the huge difference is these anti-white ideologies are being widely promoted and deemed acceptable, in that sense they are causing much more of a negative impact than actual white supremacists because there are millions, once again an estimated 42 million versus an estimated 150,000 white supremacists. The 150,000 white supremacists are very F-ed up people, and so are the 42 million anti-white people.