Trump Is Making White People More Hateful

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To me, it is equally bad for people to be racist towards white people on a very wide scale, that pushes people towards racist thoughts more so than the very low percentage of white supremacists trying to recruit people. It gives them fuel to be able to better recruit, making people that are white feel like outcasts by labeling them as 'being born racist because of there skin color', that their opinions don't count because they are white, that they should not be able to speak because they are white, college campuses literally building human walls preventing white people from being able to walk to there classes. Why is this behavior being widely accepted? It is just as damaging as white supremacists trying to recruit, the huge difference is these anti-white ideologies are being widely promoted and deemed acceptable, in that sense they are causing much more of a negative impact than actual white supremacists because there are millions, once again an estimated 42 million versus an estimated 150,000 white supremacists. The 150,000 white supremacists are very F-ed up people, and so are the 42 million anti-white people.

Also, why is media hiding black supremacy white exposing white supremacy. The MAGA kids incident, there where black Israelite's there making extremely racist remarks towards white people, why has this fact been buried? Aren't supremacy ideologists bad? Why do people only condemn white supremacy, seems black supremacy is just as evil.

Before Trump I never identified as a white person. Most of my friends growing up were Asian-American, and I was playfully described by them as an "egg" (white on the outside, yellow on the inside). In my high school calculus class I was one of 4 white persons in a class of 40 the other 36 were asian american. Once again this was a subject of what I considered harmless jokes:
A stood for Asian, B stood for Bad Asian, C stood for Caucasian, D stood for the daring Asian that would bring a D home, and we all knew what F stood for. Interestingly a white guy from connecticut moved and joined the class midway through the year and was horribly offended by this joke.

We joked about the differences between white families and asian families, but there was nothing vitriolic about it. The most tense "race" relations got was my friends complained that due to affirmative action it was even harder for Asians to get into elite colleges than whites.

Then I moved to the Midwest the year of the 2016 election and was surrounded by predominatly white people and a few bitter minorities. I got called racist for the statement: "I see nothing morally wrong with the concept of a border wall. A wall is not racist, racists can use a wall for racist purposes." I was daily subjected to tirades about how awful white people were. No one would dare tell said angry minorities to shut up, because either they agreed with them despite being white or they were afraid what would happen to them if they challenged such views.

It was only then that I felt constantly attacked for my skin color. It was only after this attack that I started thinking of myself as a white person and more bitter towards minorities. Hate begets hate. Democratic pushing of identity politics caused some white people to be angry. Those people became fans of a divisive angry rhetoric candidate in Trump. Trump inspired feelings of hatred in the minority people I encountered. Their hatred towards me has inspired negative feelings in me.

Once again identity politics are a cancer. Tell people their skin color defines them, how do you think they will react?

Makes sense, "black" people are much more hurt by "white" supremacy than "whites" are by "black" supremacy.

One of the social groups holds more power, and has the ability to wreck much more havoc.

In what sort of milieu did you find yourself then? University? Workplace? I can't imagine how in typical American surroundings, and with a predominately white population, you would encounter such attitudes. Except possibly at a University. And if at a University, I think you should be able to ascertain who the idiots are and basically ignore them, rather than get into arguments with them (and possibly allow yourself to be baited).

I really don't think Black Supremacy is a thing. There is radical Black Nationalism, and even Black Separatism (although this sort of thing was way more prevalent 50 years ago than nowadays). Black Supremacy, that's a new one for me.

As someone who has had to deal with the police, yes I believe it is unlikely that as many as 1/10 rape reports to the police are false. it's probably closer to maybe 1/50 rape reports to the police are not true. To be crazy enough to go to the police and lie to them and act traumatized when you're not and file a false report, that is indeed rare--especially considering you can't really go to the police unless you are willing to do a rape kit, and who would do that willingly for a false claim of rape, collecting a rape kit itself is traumatizing. You have to let strangers photograph you naked and take samples from your mouth and vagina and anus, and scrape under your fingernails, and all kinds of intrusions and questions. False claims might be more common on social media or blog posts, but not that many liars are willing to lie to the police because you can get in serious trouble and even get charged yourself for filing a false report in some places. You have to be extra crazy to be willing to go to that extent for a lie.

Really? Then what do you call a group of black people holding up signs with a white man on his knees and a chain around his neck, then the chain extends out to a black man, like he is holding the white man on a leash with words over it, "Now it's time for the white man to be the slave"? Friends??

Yea, it's no surprise it's new to you, because no body reports on it. In a story that spread viral, The MAGA hat teens and the native man that was actually harassing them rather than the other way around, the same group of people who believe that white people should be slaves, black Israelite's were there yelling racial slurs at white people. Now why has that 'fact' been intentionally suppressed??

The problem with this argument is no ideological consistency. Take the following true statement:

"An innocent black man is more likely to be killed by a black criminal than a white cop."

People will argue and in my opinion rightly so that this statement has nothing to do with the problem of innocent black persons being killed by trigger happy cops. However, when you make a statement like:

"Racism against Whites is a problem"

You get responses like: "Only whites can be racist," "Racism against minorities is a bigger problem" etc. People consistently put tribe over logical consistency. Either problems are independent of each other and all need to be addressed, or we need to only address the larger problems. Do you see how the two responses to the two statements are logically inconsistent?

Whether people like to admit it or not there is an implicit bias in the media. Over half of journalists identify as Democrats, whereas less than 10% identify as Republicans. Unlike others I don't think these journalists try to sway the public to their beliefs, in fact I think most try to stay objective. It's just that their biases come out whether they want it to or not. The height of arrogance is to believe "Facts have a liberal bias." Increasingly it seems that the facts that have a liberal bias are over represented in the news compared to the facts that have a conservative bias.

I find anyone who thinks conservatives or liberals are mostly correct either lives in a political bubble or isn't questioning what they're told very often. But what do I know, a lot of my thinking was influenced by Thomas Sowell.

In other words, only white supremacy is bad, supremacists of other races are irrelevant, how very absurd of a thought process.

How would you characterize a collection of individuals who frequently go on rants about the evils of "white people?" I'm curious.

I never said they didn't have reason to be angry, Trump makes me angry. It's just their anger is directed at me, and that also makes me angry.

That fact hasn't been suppressed at all. In fact we here at WP all had an in-depth discussion about that whole incident, including the Black Isrealites that were there and started the confrontation, months ago after the incident happened. I guess you hadn't joined yet or you would have seen that discussion and how often the Black Isrealites were mentioned in it.

I'm definitely not going to talk about racism with you. People that say things like you have here make me really uncomfortable.

This sign you describe was being carried by Black Israelites? To me they are a splinter group of little consequence. The same thing could be rightly said of the small group of people who actually showed up for the Unite the Right event in 2017, however White Supremacy is a widespread idea that actually dominated politics in the South (especially but not exclusively) until quite recently, and is still around. So I would see that as a legitimate threat, whereas a splinter group of black extremists don't pose any threat to me that I can perceive, and anyway very few black people of any consequence associate with such people.

Referring to the original subject line though, I would say that the idea of White Supremacy has definitely re-emerged as a potential threat to our society in that last couple of years, for what ever reason you choose to accept.

Fair enough, no one forces you to engage with anyone. I've often found it useful to engage with people with differing views than mine. It helps me refine my views and perspective. I think more people should be able to have a dialogue on difficult topics and actually listen to the other person.

If you change your mind and are willing to have a dialogue I'll respond. If you want to leave it as is, have a nice day.