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27 Mar 2019, 10:04 pm

I don’t think so. You’re not legally an adult until 18, many places you can’t smoke until 21. They want to raise the age to win guns to 21 saying 18-19 year olds aren’t adults or responsible enough. But they want to give those non adult ill responsible kids the right to vote and alter our government. It’s ridiculous. Either they’re are an adult or not at whatever age they decide and there should bear all responsibilities of an adult.
So they should be able to buy guns, buy knives, by cigarettes, weed, be tried as an adult and any other punishements adults get at 16


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27 Mar 2019, 10:20 pm

If anything given the late development of younger generations (People used to get married much younger, buy home much younger., work their first time job etc.), the voting age should be raised. Thinking back I don't really think my 18 year old self had enough life experience to be a qualified voter.

There's also something hypocritical about a society that thinks you're responsible enough at age 18 to elect the country's leaders, but not responsible enough to consume alcohol until age 21.


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27 Mar 2019, 10:40 pm

No. The younger you are the less you know and understand about politics. Most kids think in terms of democrat policies like socialism, the older you get you typically learn about corruption and why handing government too much power can be bad, because they will use that power against people.

I would agree with Antrax, it would probably be wiser to raise the voting age rather than lower it, to avoid having alot of people which are politically ignorant voting horrible people into office. The reason democrats are pushing this is obvious, the same reason they are trying to allow people illegally entering the country to participate in local elections and be protected from deportation, it's not a new stradagey at all, they have a history of inviting anyone into the country as long as they feel they will get their vote, same reason they are targeting children, for votes.



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27 Mar 2019, 11:13 pm

I and other kids liked Democrats because they’re blue. Others liked republicans cause they’re red. Or the animal repersentive.
They shouldn’t be voting.


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27 Mar 2019, 11:20 pm

If it's to get them involved in the overall decision-making process, then yes.

If it's because they're merely seen as "potential Democrats", then no.

I've observed that regardless of party affiliation, older people tend to be more pragmatic and closer to the center. Younger people are more likely to be drawn to populists.


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27 Mar 2019, 11:47 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
If it's to get them involved in the overall decision-making process, then yes.

If it's because they're merely seen as "potential Democrats", then no.

I've observed that regardless of party affiliation, older people tend to be more pragmatic and closer to the center. Younger people are more likely to be drawn to populists.



I can relate to that. I had socialist dreams as a kid and would have fallen for that. The ones pushing for it are all democrats, there was like one odd ball republican. While I do still have equal wealth dreams, it is the way to go, I understand corrupt and greedy people will not allow that, not one equal wealth system exists, and it seems all most if not all socialist countries just ensure particular families stay wealthy while others can't really reach that status unless they are extremely clever. All these mainstream dems pushing for this are power hungry millionaires, seriously doubt they actually want to help people in a big way, they have the money to do so yet don't. Where are the Democrats which want to help everyone, why are they not investing in bad neighborhoods to help the poor get ahead??

It's a good idea to get them involved in understanding, you don't give a rookie the ability to go out on their own and do potential damage, voting on things they aren't educated enough to vote on.



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28 Mar 2019, 1:17 am

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28 Mar 2019, 2:49 am

No. If anything, the voting age should be raised.


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28 Mar 2019, 2:51 am

The set of activities that we lump together and assign to "adults only" is fairly arbitrary. It could be argued we should lump the right to decide to have sex in with all those other things. I think in truth there is no way to decide when a person is mature enough to partake in various decisions unless they impact biology itself differently at different ages. Different people mature in different ways at different rates. Adulthood in our world is a narrative. A person doesn't magically acquire all the abilities they need to operate in the world one day, and we also seem to be systematically infantilizing our children.

Living on a college campus I've seen plenty of 21 year olds who aren't mature enough to drink responsibly. Brain development doesn't complete until our mid 20's so maybe we should restrict everything of impact until at least age 25 based on a neurological model of maturity.



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28 Mar 2019, 3:41 am

Wolfram87 wrote:
No. If anything, the voting age should be raised.


Agreed...



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28 Mar 2019, 4:55 am

The voting age should be increased to 21 - this should be the age of majority itself. With the dumbing down of the education system, the idiocy of mass pop culture, the lack of adequate parenting, the use of pornography, the use of illegal drugs and the lack of intergenerational moral standards, children are getting stupider and more immature, not less.



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28 Mar 2019, 5:30 am

Another vote for raising it. But that's not enough, we need to provide some basic education regarding the political system as plenty of adults are also completely ignorant on the subject. Combine that with tabloid culture and media circus and you have a disaster.


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28 Mar 2019, 8:37 am

I feel like people who can join the Army and fight for our country should also have all the other basic rights which are conferred upon adults--including the right to vote. The voting age should remain at 18. But not below 18.

I am not inclined to make the "age of majority" 21.



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28 Mar 2019, 8:41 am

sly279 wrote:
Should 16 Olds Have The Right To Vote?
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Sure!

Let's give them the right to enter into a legally-binding contract so that they can sign a mortgage agreement before they've even graduated high school!

Let's also give them the right to be drafted into the military on their 16th birthday so that the can finish their high-school education on the front lines!

Won't that be wonderful?

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28 Mar 2019, 1:27 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I feel like people who can join the Army and fight for our country should also have all the other basic rights which are conferred upon adults--including the right to vote. The voting age should remain at 18. But not below 18.

I am not inclined to make the "age of majority" 21.

Do you support them raising the age to buy guns to 21? It’s the same people who want t lower voting to 16, also the same people who raised the age to buy smokes to 21, alcohol to 21. So basically they just wants votes, as they used “they aren’t adult enough at 18” as justification for all the other things but now say they are adult enough at 16 and should be able to vote. Next it’ll be 10 then 5. Why shpuodt 5 years olds be able to vote what politicians do effects them too. Maybe you should have voting rights the min you can speak. :roll:


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28 Mar 2019, 2:02 pm

sly279 wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I feel like people who can join the Army and fight for our country should also have all the other basic rights which are conferred upon adults--including the right to vote. The voting age should remain at 18. But not below 18.

I am not inclined to make the "age of majority" 21.

Do you support them raising the age to buy guns to 21? It’s the same people who want t lower voting to 16, also the same people who raised the age to buy smokes to 21, alcohol to 21. So basically they just wants votes, as they used “they aren’t adult enough at 18” as justification for all the other things but now say they are adult enough at 16 and should be able to vote. Next it’ll be 10 then 5. Why shpuodt 5 years olds be able to vote what politicians do effects them too. Maybe you should have voting rights the min you can speak. :roll:


That's really all there is to it.


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